It's Virtually Impossible for Alliance to Win Korrak's Revenge

I find Korraks revenge as a whole to be about 50/50, but the win or loss is COMPLETELY dependent on what the horde does at iceblood.
If w defend it, alliance will lose. If we run straight through and let them go, alliance has a good chance to win.
the main horde choke is at the iceblood GY, meaning we have to force ourselves to wait there and let the enemy come to us. by doing this, we win 99% of the time. the same thing could be said about the AV of old.

the only reason there was a perceived horde disadvantage is because the players created one, by riding straight past their best defending point.
That leaves the alliance to defend the bridge, which is THEIR best defending point. This chokepoint being right in front of their base creates a kind of “forced defense” because the alliance realistically have nowhere else to go, other than around the horde force and down the mountain, but if youre doing that, you have a 25 mile hike to get to any action.
So, if you have 2 mindless masses of zombies rushing straight ahead without thinking, sure the alliance gets a natural advantage, but this is not a development issue, its a player behavior issue.
you dont blame the developers when bad raiders stand in fire and die and on the same side of the coin you should not be blaming developers when bad players completely ignore their biggest strategic advantage in a pvp match.

I would go so far as to call korraks revenge perfectly balanced, except for the fact that alliance DKs can use control undead on our commanders.
with the current AV and the ticket count system, HORDE have the advantage because lets not kid ourselves, we can get to stonehearth bunker before the alliance can, take it, then turtle to win 100% of the time.

alliance DOES lose a lot, but that’s mainly cause the horde zergs toward the alliance base in a big clump, and murder anyone that gets close… also, cause some alliance players are REALLY-really stupid. was in a match where they kept pulling drek’thar out of the base, reseting him, again and again. it was ridiculous.

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Update: tried to do korrak with 3 toons ranging from fresh 60 to maxxed 120.

6 hours of playing, all lost

Tried booting korrak with a horde alt; at least 2 out of 3 matches won, even if I play dumb.

At least the alliance queue time is much shorter.

P. S. As alli it’s impossible to run pass horde players if icewing bunker fell, but the horde can still run pass tower point if the alli takes it. The Alliance side has a deep cul de sac valley behind the bunker, whlist the horde a small patch of woods.

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I played for about 5-6 hours and lost just about every match… except for the final match where we pushed for 40 mins and managed to summon the tree at the end. Then we stormed the Horde’s base and wiped Drek with ease.

It was REALLY fun, but considering it took almost 6 hours to get to that point… well. Lol.

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alliance is just too bottle necked into base, it’s ridiculous

Battle shout shouldn’t be so dam loud, it’s like…hey look at me. I’ll let the whole dam instance know I’m bout to rush in

THE STUPID STAIRS IN TOWERS NEEDS TO GET FIXED,

MAKE INTIMIDATING SHOUT CAST W/O HAVING TO TARGET SOMEONE FFS

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Only time I’ve won on ally, the horders had like 10 people botting/afk in their base. And even then it was still close.

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Update: 3-13

My 5 wins out of 14 attempts (35%) doesn’t seem virtually impossible.

Really? I just went in on my Horde Alt and we lost so…I wouldn’t consider it impossible.

:croissant:

After the Alliance holding the upper hand in AV for years, can’t say I have too much sympathy.

Lost every game on my alliance toons, won every game on my horde toons. So I guess I’m a god hordeside and trashpanda alliance side.

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I have lost… but i have leveled my Monk, Demon hunter, Hunter, Paladin. Warlock, Warrior, Priest, all from 110 to 120… and my Death knight from level 88 to 120… and now my shaman from 102 to currently 113… and in all of that… i have lost maybe 4 games… and it was 4 games in a row one morning and i havent lost a single other game.

Now thats a lot of games. thats like 55+ games only losing 4. And im literally not even trying and for every class i have that CAN tank that i listed… i was main tanking and tanked the boss almost every time. So… for the amount of effort i am putting in to the consistent wins i am getting then yes…If i can get a 93% win rate not even trying then this system is 100% broken.

that being said i suppose the alliance could do the mercenary thing and help the horde out lol.

it’s not impossible for alliance to win.

I’ve won a few. I’ve lost more. but in every losing one, the difference was that we weren’t working together towards the win. we had handfuls of people scattered all over the map, whereas the horde were moving as a group for the most part.

fix that, and winning is entirely possible.

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IT is a zerg lvl fest.get on or get left behind,It is not blizzards job to figure out what your team should know and do plus most alli just want the mount and the fastest way to get it is to not pvp.

Lmao. When an event that’s 100% determined by how competent your team is ends up being blamed on blizz anyway because why take responsibility, amirite?

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Until you look at the damage output and see no one in the Alliance in top ten…or healing or any other category.

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Literally just won 3 in a row.

/wave

hey Thanastasia, haven’t seen you in epic bgs in a while, drop by sometime? :stuck_out_tongue:

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LOL! I’ve been trying Korrak’s, but not a single win in twelve days.
I don’t know why the queue for epics is so long on our side but i can’t seem to queue for them.
Probably for the best.

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Alliance win AV fine.

The bridge leading to the Alliance base is really hard for Horde to break through if Alliance can defend well.
It is the bottleneck there with a large field of view for the Alliance archers.

So much easier for Alliance to break into the Horde towers.