For the longest time wow has felt like a second Job more than just a video game, endless chores for the Non-Mythic Raiders. The raid and dungeon drop rate reduction has made running dungeons almost worthless, and the RNG from the weekly vault is abysmal once you get 5 or 6 slots filled. Ideally wow should be tuned so that a raider the raids weekly should be able to have all slots filled with gear from the raid a month before the next patch. ( you have have to allow people to enjoy there fully geared character for at least a month). As for the Daily chores (quests) they should be reduced in favor of more weekly quests. Ideally tuned so that you can miss a day or 2 a week without such a negative impact. Remember someone logging in 1 to 3 times a week is still paying the monthly subscription but if that person gets too far behind the gear curve he/she will quit.
I have no guild and I am from a low-pop server, so I rely 100% on joining pugs. Yet I just did my first timed +15 last night, I have six bosses down on heroic (basically the first or second try for most of them, and that’s about it), and I have 242 ilvl.
Sure, it took me a year into the expansion before my first +15 (in season one I went to +10) and I haven’t finished the final bosses of any tier. But in many weeks I only did a single dungeon – rarely more than four – and my item level is competitive with people venturing into mythic raids.
I don’t understand how you feel that you can’t already prioritize “once per week” activities. A lot of the highest-quality rewards are once per week already.
Even your first sentence was wrong. “…endless chores for the Non-Mythic Raiders”. I promise you, if you find a decent guild you can clear Heroic raids and M+15 without doing callings, Dailies, or Torghast past the level four legendary. Only the Mythic raiders need to do lots of chores.
no, lol.
find a decent guild. many people raid with full time jobs.
This is what I think of the weekly quest as. I do not go to Korthia on most days. Do the weekly, then make time for Torghast once or twice a week and you’ll have speedy access to the conduit upgrades and additional sockets.
someone with this defeatist attitude does NOT have a job.
Whaaaaaa? Working and playing wow = casual. Hopes and dreams of top tier gear melt away with needed sleep hours and workdays. Welcome to the weekend. Welcome to casual life. 
100% agree with this. Doesn’t really matter who you’re talking about, no one likes being forced to do daily chores. Even if you do play every day, it still feelsbadman to have to grind the same tedious thing every day.
Daily quests are great when the rewards are gold / anima / rep for cosmetics, etc. But when it’s tied to player power (i.e. mandatory to do), it’s much better to tie those to weekly or bi-weekly rhythms
Dude its been what over 4 months of this current raid teir with more months to go, if you aren’t geared yet well thats kinda a git gud thing
i have a great career and have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
lol this is so delusional it hurts
It shouldnt be a job with mass timers hell you get a timee when you leave the game =let devs start paying for time then
That’s how it is now. You realize we’ve been in this patch for like 4 months right? And that the next content patch isn’t actually coming until like… February at the absolute earliest?
Doesn’t sound like mmos are for you. EVERY mmo does what WoW does. It is what keeps mmos active since there are no endings.
Ummm so? That is your fault. I raid 2 nights a week at 2 1/2 hrs a raid night. I get all the Korthia dailies done in 15-20 mins tops. I kept up with renown as it is insanely easy and you can complete pretty quickly.
WoW does a great job catering to all play styles. If you don’t have the time to put in to get top gear then too bad. If you are behind the curve on gear then that is all you. It is the 2nd easiest expansion to stay up on gear. Yeah I agree about the raid drops and it has been bad, but I don’t put in tons of time in WoW yet I am happy with where I am at with gear.
I feel your pain, my friend. But what you’re likely going through is not the feeling of a second job, but a more major priority.
I have crap gear, it’s because I do too much other than WoW. It’s just a time-sink issue.
I feel like FF XIV wins over casual players little by little. WoW is geared towards more competitive gamers in comparison. Blizzard needs to learn from FF on how to make casual players feel like they’re really playing the game to the full instead of how WoW constantly reminds them that what they’re doing is worthless and pushes to do harder content.
My friend that got me into playing WoW back in classic was in the same guild but never once raided with us due to work and family obligations. However, he made do with public runs once that became available. I have another friend that got into WoW during Wrath and he joined a guild in the same time zone and was able to raid after work. I think WoW is perfectly fine as it is. There is no need to specially tune it towards the working people.
67 percent casual players left wow to ffx14 and there not coming back . They get cooler weapons the fights are crazy after your lvl and elite weapons noting in wow can compare no timers no forced quest .and you get a house lol and unlike wow ffx14 they dont steal your weapons armor you can keep em they dont nerf them go figure
i work almost 12 hours 5 days a week, with 1 real day off my other day off is spent running around doing chores and things like dropping family to work and picking up during random hours.
doesn’t help i live in Hawaii so even with PST being closest time zone to me and best latency wise im still 2-3 hours behind them. finding raiding guilds is hell for me, i dont have the time to form my own guild it would be dead trust me i’ve done so more then once. thus i pug a lot of my content and i spend more time pugging then doing actual content because people want to quit after just 1 wipe.
this is why when i played ff14 it felt more enjoyable. it was more mellow i could work, pug things easily and not worry about oh im behind and this and that. nobody cared and the game actually felt enjoyable. With WoW it literally feels like i got to rush home, do content grinds that idc for just because people gonna gate me from doing content cause im under X ilvl and not overgeared yet i can still manage doing the content without being heavily carried. then if i ignore it im already behind. on days off i got to rush and try to complete everything i didn’t complete. i’ve quit/taken a break many times because of this. it’s NOT fun. not all of us stream for a living
Yes it sucks 
but wow was/is a grindfest where if you wanna play and get shinies yopu gotta devote time .