If we can solo queue arena to the highest levels and get the best PvP rewards, there’s no reason we can’t solo queue Mythic+. Just match groups based on rating and/or previous completion.
This would allow for incentivizing tanking and healing with better rewards, penalizing leavers, remove the infuriating experience of depletion, etc.
Queue system isnt an AI finding the best matches. Its grabbing the first tank / healer / 3 dps in line and putting them in a group.
Thats how a queue system works. If it were up to AI, DKs and Warrior DPS would never see a group via AI.
Theres a reason a meta is formed. And irs not silly. Needing meta for 10s and below is silly
Because players without abilities are able to create groups right now and skip the very fact that they don’t have those abilities.
In a queue, they’ll wait a whole lot more if the system would prioritize players with lust and brez. And again, that’s after the fact that nobody decent would ever queue to this nightmare system.
Matchmaking in PVP is notoriously and horrifically bad though.
How about no.
Make your own group, meta comps are irrelecant between +2 and 10+
people can build their groups how they want…
Also m+ queue would be terrible, because it would have to prioritize bres, and lust… which automatically takes 2 spots…
Arena rating works much differently than m+.
Bad arena queue-
You lose like 10-15 minutes.
Bad mplus queue -
You lose 30-60 minutes, maybe more since you can’t just leave and there’s no upper limit on how many times the group wipes on the first boss before someone else risks a ban by leaving and freeing you to leave as well.
100-300 gold repair bill every single wipe. Depending on your gear.
There are very real differences.
??? Just lol
Don’t be obtuse. Are you a boomer or just living under a rock. You also couldn’t write a doc or create artwork with AI 2 years ago.
There’s enough data about how players from groups where even a basic AI could do as well as a human. It’s not hard to make sure you have lust, at least one ranged DPS and one Melee and to make sure you have a dispel option needed for the run.
What level of key do you think would be in the queue? 10’s and under are where the rewards exist and that’s where a queue would exist. Over 10’s are for people pushing.
You need spiky damage though. Otherwise theres no threat. There’d be no need for defensives
You’d at least need a few check marks to make sure that there’s a lust and a battleres in each group. Probably not AI but at least extra check marks besides “has tank?” “Has healer?”
It’s amazing how many times people forgets mplus is not meant to be some easy time free loot mode.
It’s supposed to be challenging.
Sometimes I wonder how did they come to the conclusion that mplus should be a thread mill to loot with no effort.
Probably because that’s what Blizzard has made it, for years.
You say that but people are still walled under 10s
And a lot of people won’t even touch m0s
So there is a barrier that people readily wants it gone.
So priests are never going to see any action in Mists, or CoT or Ara-Kara because they cant dispel poisons. Nor can Shamans and you cant force them to take Poison Cleansing totem.
Cant have a DPS like Paladin or Druid take the role of dispel either because those are optional talents and 90% of dps wont even cleanse themselves much less others even when they do have that talent selected.
AI is going to melt trying to figure out how to put groups together if looking at “how humans do it”.
Theres some things a humans touch is required for.
As high as people can push. Its m+ queue. Not “carry me to my reward level and then cut me loose to the wild if i wanna go higher queue”.
The purpose is to eliminate group making because people are bad/lazy. This goes beyond 10s
Okay.
Now remember what the max vault threshold was last expansion.
I swear there’s people in the community that sell carries and would hate something like this to be implemented thus all the outrage. I enjoy actual discussion and cordial disagreement, but some types here have had the most unwarranted vitriolic reactions to this. It makes you wonder. Wouldn’t want to cut into their profits.
No, we just don’t want the forums to be clogged by the endless threads of “no tanks or healers are using the M+ queue function - BLIZZARD HAS TO DO SOMETHING” that would result.
The players who would use a queue aren’t pushing bro. You’re creating issues out of nothing.
Uhhh…how do they get in now?
Sure…for pushing keys not for 10’s and under which is the most likely target for a queue.
Queues are for auto-complete content.