My point was if the dungeon was easy enough that you didn’t even need a full group then no you didn’t have to be a master of your class.
5 “oks” were good enough. Trust me.
Tovi, and I like you(normally lol we have had arguments) but you are looking the same here. I am not trolling you here. I legitimately do not see why group content should be the line of whether we unlock all the unlocks for an account or not.
I can say dude, Tovi and I are disagreeing here but she is actually trying to, we just don’t agree at all. Which is all well and good. We don’t have to.
Yes, I do agree. There is no reason. Especially if we are going to argue that the line is it was group content VS solo
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Then why don’t the majority of players during mop have cm gear.
To you it might be easy. But to a super casual it isn’t.
Hindsight and all that. Everybody is like “cms were easy anybody could do them” then either neglected to do them or only did them on one or two chars.
Kind of like the “oh tcg was cheap in mop” and despite playing at the time most people didn’t buy any.
Same reason people always miss out on limited time stuff.
Dude has 10 jobs, 20 wives and 500 kids “meh life!”
Their computer was broke for 5 years.
They weren’t born yet.
Tough luck, kid. 
Lol yeah sure not being around is one reason…
Another is that it wasn’t a feat that many players couldn’t reach, which is the common one.
Your projecting the skills of leets and people you probably know and then think that most players play like that.
Yes I agree and I didn’t mean to imply that they were easy. I ran them with friends that had done it before so they made it easy but I was not awesome or a master of my class.
frankly that’s a skill issue
lost on the character creation screen
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Then you were carried because they had enough mastery of their class to make up for your lack of…
I know, trust me I know, but my point was that if 4 badasses could drag me through it then 5 people that are not masters but at least know what they’re doing could.
It was cheap because it was heavily duplicated
Yes., But not everyone is at that level… Those who are or were lucky or wealthy to be carried got it.
If you weren’t playing or lacked the skill or gold to get it then tough luck.
Yeah, that’s what everybody thought, and was scared to buy it. 
I don’t think that’s ever been proven.
And people should have the ability to keep getting it. Especially since content scaling is all over the place now.
No, they just need to do more things like CM rewards in the future.
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No they shouldn’t, especially because players like you think so.
The devs made them time sensitive and that’s that.
I’m convinced the JOP, spectral tiger cub and Vial of Sand was though.
There would be no reason for a scammer to hack someone’s account, spend 80k to craft a JOP then sell it for 20. Same with VoS.
Plus, all the Spectral Tiger Cubs on the AH was level 6. That’s a very specific level to stop at for all of them.
Sketchy. 
Do you remember the wod crafted gear with the various stat weights? I remember like 50 of the same piece with the exact same stat weights which is…statistically improbable.