It's time for cross armor type transmog

For Metzen’s sake, look at my mog. Can you tell I’m a paladin clad in clunky plate? No…

I don’t see why we can run around in crazy mogs like this, or be completely naked minus pants, but a warrior can’t mog into cloth armor.

Also look at some heritage armor. Some are clearly a certain armor type looks wise. Like DID, LFD, human, orcs have plate like heritage armor that their cloth classes.can wear.

Just flip the switch blizz,.the damage has been done

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I agree somewhat. You can wear summer robes on any class, but the rest is restrictive. It doesn’t make a lot of sense in the current game anymore.

Btw, nice mog!

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yes, i think they are aware of the butterfly wings not being plate…
its more of a stained glass…

ahm

the problem is, they are prob worried that by opening up armor xmog restrictions the reward pool will get watered down because they cant just offer a Plate recolor to a cloth wearer and call it a new armor set. or vice versa

they would have to get more creative with armor sets because they cant intentionally make the wrong armor appearance for the other armor classes.

plate would have to be plate. Cloth made of… Fabrics.

and have you seen the price tag for genuine Dragon Hide? the stuff is practically unobtainable without starting a war with some Primal flights, an harvesting fallen allies for their scales is risky business. :dracthyr_sweat:

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I’m generally against this, but Blizz has been making it more difficult to have this position.

“Nooo that would increase fun levels by 13.92%” -blizz devs

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This is exactly my stance.

I’d be against it 100% but given how we’re able to mog now and heritage armor and cosmetic armor, what’s the point of keeping the restriction.

I have a mog that makes me look like a freaking mage and you won’t know unless you mousovered me.

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I would’ve been against this before, but we now have sets like the nightborne and Dark Iron heritage sets that look like a specific armor type but can be worn by any class, and NPCs mix and max armor types all the time. Today, the average NPC that’s of a playable race wears some combination of plate and mail, mail and leather, or leather and cloth, so they should expand that freedom to the player.

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This discussion topic comes up every now and again whenever new class sets are revealed.

It has been made abundantly clear over the last 20 years of this game that what we wear on our characters is the paramount of player agency and expression. Not too far off of real life, really. More than mounts, more than pets, a lot more than titles. Transmog is the gateway between you, behind your keyboard, truly being immersed with the little character sitting in the middle of the screen… BUT,

Legion also showed us how effective and important classes are as part of that expression. When you pick a class, you’re not just picking a gameplay style (professional players somewhat exempt)- you’re picking a whole wardrobe. An entire aesthetic. The visuals, the gameplay, the associated NPCs, the identity- it’s no secret why Blizzard kept pushing the phrase “class fantasy” heavily during the build up towards Legion’s order halls. It’s also why class tier sets eventually found their way back into the game. It really does matter to people.

There is an agency to having exclusive access to certain armour per class. Yes, you can transmog armour of the same proficiency, which means being able to sometimes make look-alike mogs; like a Warrior decked out as a paladin or DK- but it’s never a guarantee you’ll get access to the full set in the same way the actual class does. And taking that exclusivity away does many things to make a player’s commitment to a single character feel less valuable. And that’s important in a game where you want to keep players around and emotionally connected to their characters. A very real consequence of completely removing the transmog limitations would actually be a fading/absent loyalty to a certain class longterm, for example.

Why bother playing anything else if I can just make my Warrior look like a Monk? or a Rogue? It also kills the at-a-glance recognition that other games like League of Legends or HotS heavily depended on. Without seeing a tooltip, without seeing a class colour, if you’re seeing something wearing leather w/ 1 handed weapons, you already can access the microsecond neural link to potential classes, abilities, and strategy that are associated with it. Seeing a character fully decked out in the Fire-Charm vestments set (Monk Tier 15), with a 2h staff suddenly charge at you and beat you down with death magic and 0 use of martial arts isn’t too far from the same feeling of shock one gets from being given a coffee cup filled with orange juice. Your brain expects one thing, but upon having that anticipation betrayed, you fumble for a second.

Wild comparison, I know. But when you combine that lost feeling of exclusivity of access to what your class can wear, combined with the greater gameplay ramifications, it just creates more bad than good. There’s so little to gain here vs so much to lose, because at the end of the day, there are cosmetic sets for everybody- and then there are class sets. We differentiate them because the former are not aesthetically hinged to a single class (mostly).

All of that in mind? Personally, I’m of the opinion that certain sets should be allowed across the board on a case-by-case basis. Old sets? Sets that aren’t class locked? Or maybe limiting another class from wearing more than a set number of transmog pieces that belong to another class? There can always be a middle ground, but I do think in the long term it would open the flood gates and make any new sets lose some appeal.

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I generally agree, I’ve been a fan of armor identity before, but it isn’t just heritage sets, there are various cosmetic sets that have been released that blur the lines, for example the Venthyr cosmetic set:

What class would that be? Cloth, Mail/Plate? Anything can transmog as it, and there are multiple others

I agree with the OP. They should shake things up a little and let people have fun.

Also, I’m sure they do plan on doing this eventually… it’s just that they seem to like to release changes in a small steady trickle. We can transmog whites and greys now. Different armor types (so long as you can equip it will most likely be their rule) is probably next on the list.

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Wouldn’t mind this change. It would make the game more interesting and allow people to really mix up their transmogs. I mean a warrior can’t use a leather eye patch, What? it makes no sense.

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While they’re at it, it’s time to move dumb little restrictions like being able to purchase the leather Shadow-Pan Helmet on my Panda Monk…but I can’t buy and consume the cloth transmog even though I can wear cloth.

Ah…the “Plate Tmog enthusiasts should get everything while Cloth Tmog enthusiasts should get bent” topic that always pops up from time to time.

Or it should be that you simply add the transmog appearance to your collection when you click on the item regardless of armor type. So what if you can’t wear it and get the stats. Just get the appearance, mark it soulbound, and move on. You can vend the item later.

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I love wearing mixed weight appearances on ESO.

Why does everyone look at a post like OP and go, “warriors can mog everything and priests stay the same? How about no.” The total lack of exposure to any other system on display.

Nah, I think there should just be more mogs that appear as a type of armor but aren’t. Like the DID heritage armor looks like plate but any armor class can wear it. More things like those. Not just straight up letting mages transmog into plate.

Well keep in mind that lots of armor would still stay class specific.

For example, t2 judgement. Yes I know ther s other colorations that are usable for non paladins, but the red and gold would be usable by paladins only

Why though?

That just seems needlessly arbitrary

I want my DKs to be able to wear mageweave legs pls.

I don’t know why we have these arbitrary rules in video games to limit players fun, especially transmog when things like heritage armor that are plate looking can be worn by cloth classes etc etc. Don’t even get me started on cosmetic toys like Jar of Sunwarmed Sand , or Atomic Recalibrator , that are purely for fun and cosmetic, but have such a long arbitrary cooldown for no reason. Video games are meant to be fun, stop with these dumb limitations.