I think that’s stretching.
Ash and the nameless company wanting to capture the xenomorph was just a reason for him to be “evil.” We don’t know why they wanted it.
If that’s the case we don’t have anything to talk about because you are simply oblivious to the themes around you.
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This looks like code for being wrong and not wanting to admit it and since that’s the case, I’m perfectly fine with ending the conversation.
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The attempted antagonization proves my point exactly. When you’re mature enough to be intellectually honest I will be here, until then bye.
You mean this?
I was just having a discussion until you got snippy then turn around to get offended when I give it back to you?
You’re the one that keeps trying to make this personal. Grow up.
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I’m sorry you take that as an insult but it’s true if you are incapable of seeing said themes when they are right in your face. The idea that you are “just giving it back” proves your maturity level on this topic.
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I didn’t say it was an insult, this is an insult:
There’s no reason to be this nasty over a discussion about movies and TV shows.
Btw, you haven’t shown how Alien is political, you’re just insisting on calling me immature which has nothing to do with nothing. Just because a president walks across the screen in a movie or show doesn’t make the movie or show political.
For Alien to be political, it’s going to need more than a nameless company wants the xenomorph, especially when that’s not even the main theme of the movie.
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Why I just make an honest analysis of what I see. I’m sorry you find it “nasty” but I won’t be less blunt about it.
Ah I see this is the approach you take. Everything is political Tovi.
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Ok I’ll be blunt too: someone that has to go to personal insults in an argument or debate as the mental capacity of a child.
Yeah I said that several posts up.
No it’s not, Keipi.
Anyways, I’m pretty much done with this thread. Muting and ignoring you.
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“No you” is a pretty silly argument but I’m not very surprised that you would choose to go that route Tovi.
It is, life is inherently political Tovi. You can pretend that it isn’t but that is also a political decision in of itself.
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I take that as your concession. Thank you very much Tovi.
Predator is probably the closest you are to right there it’s one of the more apolitical movies objectively however that wouldn’t be right in the case of The Thing and Alien.
Just about any movie can be seen as “political” if you try hard enough. I think Tovi’s point was that most movies didn’t blatantly bash you over the head with it with zero subtlety like movies today.
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Then they probably should state that instead of saying something completely different. For the record, I do agree there are definitely different ways to portray a theme or message in a film or show. It’s another thing to say that these messages usually don’t exist in films or shows however.
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Bludgeoning audiences over the head with messaging doesn’t work. Having a message or theme that relates to current political and social climates has always been a thing, but there also needs to be a compelling story and characters people can get behind as well.
Also, there are just so many options nowadays that make it harder to really captivate people. Having messages that completely lack subtlety and nuance don’t help win audiences over, though.
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We still wouldn’t have flying cars by then.
Exactly, like how Ed, Edd n Eddy is about climbing the capitalism ladder by exploiting the minds of children though deception. 
I kid, somewhat.
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We already have flying cars, the Aerocar made its first flight as early as 1949…
We also have jet packs now too.
Has there been more in recent history like from 2000 to now?
I’m not saying they don’t exist, i’m simply saying their not as common as you may think.
And not to use a satirical video that was responded towards me, but, maybe the reason is because of potential software failures during mid-flight and weather? I mean given how obsessed we are with touchscreen controls and making everything require an app and so on, it’s a flying disaster waiting to happen if one thing is out of place.
…Again, not a common item. Pricewise, it’s nearing to rich, somewhere in the hundred thousands, but i would imagine fuel doesn’t come cheap.
Sadly it’s the progressive part.
We’re sacrificing Quality Story for this “Representation”. Nowadays they just throw it in there, just for it to be in there with little care. nothing is thought over they just work off nostalgia and throw in new stuff, having no inspiration to stride out and start something new. What’s worse is these reboots! What is wrong with how they were?
People just keep reading or watching one little thing, and they judge the entire thing and think it needs a reboot to be more “REPRESENTATIVE” or “INCLUSIVE”, but why!? Why must we degrade and tear down other people’s hard work, just to feel better about ourselves? Why must some tear down what others spent good time making, and try and make it their own, instead of coming up with their own ideas?
There’s No Originality!
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