It's a sad joke that our dots do no damage

Classes Warlock
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And almost every single class can drop our dots when we do have a go.

Hunters can fd every 15s to drop all our dots, can also take like 20% less dot dmg. Pet sac.

Mages take no damage period from dots due to triune and pvp talents to take less dot dmg. Our dot duration is also a joke. They can also dispel all our curses and spellsteal our nether ward and dark soul.

Warriors have spell reflect, defensive stance, ignore pain. If they are ventyr they also get enough shields to never take damage from dots basically.

Demon hunters take significantly reduced magic dmg, and can reverse magic. Meta can outsustain our dots entirely. Basically immortal to us when they are not undertuned.

Paladins either shield or wog their way through our pathetic rot dmg. Shadow resist aura btw.

Monks can diffuse all our dots.

Priest can greater fade mass dispel ua. All their defensives make our dots do no dam.

Rogue can cloak and with the new conduit basically gets easy restealths vs us since they become essentially immune to dots on stealth. It’s actually such a joke that blizz designed this.

Druid just laughs at dot dmg with frenzy but are otherwise fair for us to kill.

Shamans can almost infinitely sustain our dots and just harrass us with grounding hex and sheers. Earthen wall barely does anything in this burst meta but eats up so much rot dmg. Healing spring and alike gets so much value vs us.

Dks just ams everything off all the time without a care in the world.

Dot damage is supposed to be balanced by the fact you have time to react to it but it does high damage and the game being in a state where everyone has stops or multiple stops to our rot damage makes no sense. We already have to hardcast to get our damage out after several globals where we are applying low damage dots. It’s incredibly poor balancing that there’s so much answers to warlock’s toolkit whether it be our damage profile or our cc but we have no answer to mage combust or melees zerging us down beside running.

There’s a reason snutz doesn’t play warlock, and chanimal complains about how dreadful this class is to play. Every single class can stop our damage multiple times a game, and we have no burst either. It doesn’t make sense. What can we do when a 30k divine toll hits us?

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Are you on drugs? Lock aff damage is S tier right now. If you think they are weak now, Im not sure this is the right class for you

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I think you are the one needing to lay off the hard stuff.

He’s clearly talking about PVP, while you obviously have no clue.

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Affliction is absolutely more than good in pvp.

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Warlocks have 1.5% representation at 2700+, stop hiding behind an alt since you are so clueless

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that’s all MR damage however. he has a very valid point that the dots are not doing dmg. in pvp this is compounded by the playstyle that doesn’t open up for MR dumps as easy as in raiding.

warlocks are in a rough spot for pvp atm and there really is no denying this and it happens for many reasons. aff is the best pvp warlock spec currently but by no means is is “more than good” it’s not even good, it’s just workable.

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Is it even workable when it’s the 2nd worst class in the game? How bad can it possibly get before people actually stop selling this fake news that “warlock” is in a playable state. Everyone can agree that dhs are barely even playable but we still have ppl selling a class that is as bad as dh as “playable” or “strong”

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there are a few warlocks that can go in high rating levels. hence workable. barely but workable. i wouldn’t advise trying to get heavy into pvp as a warlock atm but i also cannot deny that it is possible to perform well even if you have to go well out of your way and be an excellent pvper.

i don’t sugarcoat thing but i also don’t overdramatize usually. all warlocks get a D or less in pvp. some folks are good enough to make a D rated class go. most of us will just die.

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I agree with you if it makes you feel better. Warlock is terrible right now along with DH and DK. There’s just no threatening damage from Warlocks. Good luck getting sympathy from the PvP community after BFA S4 though.

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I think if they gave us back the blood spell that insta feared the first melee to hit us (so we wouldnt be free kills to rogues) and made malific insta cast it would be a step in the right direction.as for the other 2 specs i have no idea.

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What’s even worse is all the globals you have to spend to be able to do ANY damage. I jump on my Druid last night after playing on my Lock and it was so refreshing to be able to pump damage (not counting Convoke) and have survivability. I love the Warlock class but in its current state, a joke.

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Yep I love the class as well and leveled my Warlock up to 60, finished the campaign and then realized I wasn’t going to be happy. It’s especially bad in aoe situations and I think they should add a better way to apply dots quickly. The real deal breaker was knowing it was another bad PvP class.

I finally decided to make my druid my main after being disappointed with my DK. Hybrids have everything this expansion and I can’t see a good reason not to play one right now.

Back to the topic at hand though which is PvP. Destro needs to make a comeback. Simple as that. It’s a burst meta and the only burst spec for Warlock is destro. Affliction is never going to be good in arena with the way the games currently played.

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I’ve seen some Destros out there in PVP but those hard casts are pretty hard to get off.

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They exist but affliction is definitely considered the “best” spec for PvP currently. I feel bad for under-performing classes. I don’t think any of the major problems are getting addressed until at least 9.1 and even then who knows.

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The only way aff is viable is when they can shard dump with MR. Dots do no dmg in pvp. Ramp time is too long. Too squishy as well.

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Yeah the diverse toolkit of most of the hybrid is insane. Most of them basically got back all they needed plus their covenants are amazing.

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I main a warlock doing mostly PvP. Warlocks can do massive damage if left to free cast - but any class in the game can do massive damage if left to free cast. The caveat is in the survival and utility that the class has when they cant free cast, and we just don’t have anything that compares to other classes right now.

At the moment we depend heavily on two thing, the corruption slow legendary and night fae ability. The very fact that I have to play night fae warlock is humiliating. Ardenweald was by far the most disgusting world Ive ever seen. I look dirty and grimy stuff. It makes it worse that the PVP gear xmogs to fit your convenent class. Also doesnt help that soul rot is one of the most uninspired boring abilities Ive ever used.

The fact that I have to get the slow legendary makes me so vulnerable to nerfs on that one legendary. I know for a fact that the slow debuff is absolute cancer when you’re fighting against it so I know that there will be many complaints about it as well.

When my sub runs out I wont be resubbing. The initial shine of playing WOW after 3 years break wore off.

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I like how a guy responded to this post on a Druid and said locks are ok. The PvP tuning they did for this Tuesday was horrible. They gave us nothing, and they barely nerfed mages, boomkins, and palys. I started leveling my Dk cause at the very least it’s fun to play. This is the worst version of warlock I’ve played since vanilla, especially in PvP.

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I honestly quit doing rated pvp bc of the poor pvp status of warlocks. Only skirmishes for me until they fix em. Aint wasting my time on that garbage.

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I did some rated 10s last night as affliction and lead or was right near the top in overall damage multiple times. Problem is that I could lead in overall damage and have zero kbs. There’s damage but how impactful is it? I’ve tried skirmishes but it’s just painful as you get trained constantly until you are dead so hoping 10s will be a way to get some rating to upgrade gear.