But vanilla is all sunshine and rainbows… it is polished and it’s not slow lmao
You dropped this /s
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Not even being sarcastic, what you said is completely subjective.
1.12 items, 1.12 talents, 1.12 nerfed content, what’s not to like?
Their metric for what is “fun” is vastly different from the actual enjoyment of the content by players, as evidenced by the Q&A video.
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Having 16 debuff slots at launch is enough to negate the difficulty of MC regardless of itemization.
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Polish is not subjective.
At least half the specs were barely functional.
Paladin didn’t even have a basic tank ability, a taunt.
Even at the best itemization, itemization was still all over the board.
The list goes on and most of this was fixed in TBC and almost all of it by Wrath
Maybe they weren’t supposed to have a taunt? Ever heard of variety?
Lmao nothing was fixed in TBC go look at DPS logs and you’ll see something like
Warlock
Warlock
Warlock
Hunter
Warlock
Warlock
Firemage
Warlock
Have the developers accounted for extreme examples of progressive itemization, such as PVP blues providing clear numerical advantages over Tier 1 sets, in a raiding environment?
It’s not merely inaccurate - Molten Core is going to be tragically easy, as is. Nothing like it was. This is just one more thing screwing up the feel of the experience.
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Wow, I live this level of communication. I honestly feelsbadman that live WoW gets zero communication. Can the classic team please help live with communication? PvP is the worst communication I’ve ever witnessed. Good on you classic team. Keep it up
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You can have variety and still be functional, a tank without taunt is not functional.
And that’s how top guilds always are, CoS just this week saw half the raid being priests.
Point is by the end of TBC and into Wrath you could actually play each spec mostly functionally.
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They will be as fixed as Blizzard can making them not Vanilla.
At least the monumentally OP D2 set will be held at bay, because that would be gamebreaking to have too early.
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PvP gear won’t even exist at launch.
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Prot paladins were still functional in a group setting, add dps that can actually manage aggro and you might have a decent group! Not everyone NEEDs everything’s… maybe prot paladins weren’t meant to tank raids… just like how no one wants a paladin tank in TBC outside of SHH (H) because they are STILL hot garbage even with a taunt… because they “fixed everything in tbc”
I tanked everything, in TBC, as a paladin.
And they were the best AOE tank in TBC, almost required for Zul’Aman and the bird boss.
Only time we had issues was the last boss of kara cause it liked to crush like crazy so we used a druid.
Almost sounds like a lesson learned from the Overwatch team regarding hero limits.
I’m a fan of this approach.
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Go onto a TBC server, roll prot paladin, and see how many guilds are jumping at you… and then go holy and retry. Not saying it’s impossible, I’m saying they are complete garbage compared to a warrior in terms of threat generation.
The scenario you’re imagining - wherein early MC raiders will be kitted out in epics before the honor system goes live - isn’t realistic.
Presuming you did play back then, you’ll be able to recall that due to raid lockouts and drop scarcity, actually gearing up was slow. You mark my words, people will have their blue sets long before you see people filled out in tier 1, unless Blizzard opts to have a particularly long period between phases, which I doubt.
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I never had a single issue with threat, specially in AoE since Holy shield was broken.
I don’t even like TBC, but you’re just blatantly wrong, I tanked on pally from TBC to MoP when I stopped tanking because they removed tanking stats in wod
The retail team deals with a ton of negativity, which likely dampens the desire to communicate with the players, especially when the retail team has no means or desire to address many of the playerbase’s concerns until the next expansion (if even then). Too many of retail’s issues are too ingrained to fix in a patch, and it doesn’t help Blizzard to release a blue post stating “We can’t fix this, sorry, just live with it”.
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