GCD, Cast speed, and DOT speed
unless its been changed doesnt it reduce gcd
it a situational basis every character has to many variables in there gear to judge. you also get diminishing returns with stats at certain breakpoints. thats why running sims is so important. it can calculate the best circumstances for the gear you posses.
Current trinkets are a prime example of this. A few lfr quality trinkets are better than a mythic quality of most others.
Sometimes the proc or on use far outweighs the ilvl gain.
As a caster it does, maybe not other specs. On my resto druid haste makes the game so much better, I get more heals out especially rejuv, they tick faster, the game is just unplayable for me with <10% haste on this character
Thatâs the whole point - different stats do different things for different specs, which is why the OPâs original take is so very, very off base.
Not for me.

unless its been changed doesnt it reduce gcd
Not for me.

as the overwhelming gearing choice is always âhigher item level = betterâ.
Not always.

Not for me.
Then âhaste doesnât do anything for brewmasterâ would have been a more clear statement
But either way, still dot speed, energy regen, and cdr
Not even the cdr, at least for things that matter like Blackout Kick.
Iâm not sure what youâre trying to prove
Just keep back peddling I guess

Iâm not sure what youâre trying to prove
Maybe you should read the thread. Itâs not that long.

Thatâs the whole point - different stats do different things for different specs, which is why the OPâs original take is so very, very off base.
Point taken, but does vers do anything interesting for any spec? I guess it lets people choose between being tankier or more dps or not?
And I guess shamans have a crit thing

Not even the cdr, at least for things that matter like Blackout Kick.
would be interesting if you could stack haste and become a keg throwing machine gun
Vers is top stat for many specs. Iâd say thatâs interesting.

Maybe you should read the thread. Itâs not that long.
Your overall point doesnât change the fact youâre backing it up with untruths
Theyâd have to un-nerf Keg Smash repeatedly first.
im all for the make brewmaster great again era

but does vers do anything interesting for any spec?
Yeah. When your best stat is vers it indicates youâre due for an overhaul.

Item stats are pointless,
that might be accurate when dealing with a single piece of gear, but not when considering and entire gear set.
while accurate play will be more important than secondary stats in general, talents + stats + accuracy is even more important.
I have noticed significant differences in the way toons play when I have swapped gear into prioritized stats. haste, as one example, can be like night and day in terms of resource generation.
I would prefer that we had reforging back in the game.

Haste actually changed gameplay but I wouldnât miss crit or vers at all. Mastery is a toss up depending on the spec.
Whereas for r sham, crit changes game play and i stay at low haste.