Item Level capped at +10 for mythic

Timegate is a buzzword boogieman word with negative connotations (like scaling and systems) used to try to assert ones point is better.

The downside is the more it is used, the more it starts to come across as “the boy who cried wolf” or complain jus to complain.

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Yeah, this is the sort of things that ruin the game. Could someone possibly just run stuff over and over to max out their gear? But the people doing that do it because they enjoy playing the game. They are the same people who would say, “Ok, this toon is geared time to play my alt”. This is the exact reason I no longer play alts.

Yeah it’s why these days I try to ignore peoples’ words and focus more on the spirit/intent of their message.

In this case people are just lashing out against oppressive designs put in place by blizz to keep all of us ducks in a tight distribution. Or at least how I see it.

I think it’s safe to assume that they contracted out the puzzles.

You can make whatever assumptions you want. But the idea that this is a normal expansion with a typical release schedule is something you aren’t going to convince anybody of. They appear to be falling further behind as time passes.

Clearly they’re still blaming paying customers for their failures.

If you think everybody is a moron but you, it’s probably you who is the outlier. Not everybody else.

And the alternative is Need v Greed? Master loot in every dungeon, even random ones?

Or they go back to Personal Loot being un-tradeable which no one liked.

The current system is just Need/Greed with rolls done in the background but no player control.

But the reverse is also true, not all time-gates are good.

Now who’s right? Can go either way


I don’t remember that being a thing. Which expansion was that?

You would have full 262 with no double leggo and tier sets at best. No one is bulldozing mythic with that.

I mean
 if you think all time-gates are bad, you’re objectively a moron. That doesn’t exclude me from being one too, except for the fact I recognize not all time-gates are bad.

You can overlap that particular Venn diagram however you wish.

Personal Loot came in MoP. You couldn’t trade at all.

The truth is that declaring that strangers who you disagree with about some topic are mentally retarded puts you in a category all by yourself. Because your desperate need to publicly declare that everybody who disagrees with you is mentally retarded (which is quite literally what you have done) puts you in an antisocial category all of your own.

The idea that the game has always been exactly like this, and nothing whatever has ever changed, is just hilariously and demonstrably false. I’m sure if you keep repeating nonsense like this you’ll start getting respect - maybe in the next life, but probably not.

Keep it up. You write like you’re being paid to stick to a script you don’t even understand. Gee, I wonder why people never complained about timegating on this scale before
?

Every week they can keep people from feeling like they’ve finished their toon is an extra week of potential subs.

Yeah I feel the same with alcohol. They sell these bottles in fifths which, after years of drinking have failed to satisfy my addiction. Yet for some reason alcohol companies think my playstyle of drinking a metric crapton of fireball every day isn’t worth making drums of it available to the public. smh fireball is literally just making me buy fifths all the time instead of more economic 20 gal drums.

Just remove all time gating. If players max out everything week 1 and then complain there is nothing to do because they blazed through the content then that should be on them.

1> I never said that. You are confusing a legit mental handicap with a situation in which people are simply UNWILLING to learn.

BIG DIFFERENCE

2> It is specifically because I’m calling out people who are unwilling to learn that I’m not in the wrong here. I’m an engineer by trade-- I’m used to being right about things when pretty much everyone around me is wrong.

People have a negative, knee-jerk reaction to the word “ignorant.” Everyone equates it to “stupid.” But that’s not what it means. It simply means “you don’t know.” You COULD know
 you COULD learn 
 and until you do, you are “ignorant.”

STUPID means you HAVE been taught
 you HAVE been shown you’re wrong, and you simply don’t care. You WILLINGLY ignore facts.

The two are not the same and you’re trying to make it your stance that I called a group of people that latter when I quite clearly called them the former.

I know what I said.


 It’s fairly obvious why they do this.

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You said that. The very word “moron” was created as a description of a low IQ range. People who want to use it as a slur to demonstrate how much more intelligent they are than people who they disagree with are just calling those people literally mentally retarded and showing everybody that they themselves have no social skills. That’s you.

Despite the fact that you seem to feel that wow has an enormous number of players in a giant genre, the fact is that MMO’s make up only a tiny part of videogaming. Their potential audience is small. They make up for this by encouraging players to invest in their characters because of addictive gameplay that makes them want to log in every day because they feel like every play session results in character progress. People get addicted to that feeling. Failing to provide repeatable content that people enjoy doing results in them going off and finding some other game to play.

The number of hardcores is small. There aren’t enough hardcores to keep a game like wow profitable. You wannabes just aren’t important enough.

Blizzard has lost its way. People never used to complain about time-gating like this patch, which makes it blatantly obvious how little blizzard respects their customers or cares about retaining them. They are blaming currently paying customers for every failure they and only they are responsible for.

Pat yourself on the head and brag about how calling people who disagree with you “morons” isn’t really calling the overwhelming majority of players retarded.

Anyway, I’m through with you. There’s no point in trying to have a discussion with people who are emotionally immature, dishonest, and have no social skills.

Oh, yeah. “Moron” was originally a scientific classification for people with an IQ between 26 and 50.