Twitch viewer count is a pointless metric.
For one, these view counts are largely bots. SquareEnix is less interested in pumping the count than Activision. You go in these RWF streams and there’s 2000 viewers and someone says something every 2.5 minutes. You go in an FFXIV stream with 145 viewers and the chat is rolling. WoW is notorious for fake streams, someone is putting in extreme effort to prop them up.
For two, say legitimately there’s 50,000 people staring at these boring streams of nothing. That is people who are both interested in WoW, but not playing WoW. Why would you want 1/3rd of the possible concurrent players watching streams of someone else playing the game?
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These posts claiming ff14 is dead well if it was dead no one would talk about it lmao. It’s why I never bought the WoW is dead
Dunno, I started WoW in 2020 and XIV since 2.0.
Just got trashy over time. I guess I’m bitter like how you all are with WoW. I haven’t gotten to the point where I hate this game and I continue playing it yet.
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The nice thing about FFXIV is everything isn’t datamined for you by a 3rd party site and you don’t have to look up everything you need to do in the game every 10 minutes. The game actually directs you to what you need to do. You don’t need to watch streams constantly to figure out systems and hidden information. DBM also doesn’t exist, no addons in FFXIV. Although normal raids have visual indicators, savage and ultimate don’t.
Ffxiv is also putting out lots of content in the next year, they didn’t have to scrap the remainder of their expansion like WoW just did. I wonder how long WoW streamers can stream the same content for over a year and retain its viewership.
Ffxiv is also cross platform. A lot of players play on PS4 and PS5 too. It’s funny to me because ffxiv actually has more skills in its rotations than WoW has for its classes. The gcd in WoW is worse because you don’t have ogcd like ffxiv.
Anyway the next 6.1 patch is coming out probably the 2nd week of April. Then the game will go back to 3,000 person queues. I probably won’t be back to WoW until there is a new patch. Ffxiv will keep me busy with content and by the time WoW has their 9.25 patch I’ll be busy doing relic weapons in FFXIV.
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Also, regardless of viewer count, FFXIV is doing great. Again, since it’s heavy story focused you won’t really see a lot of people looking at it until they’re done. But if you care about numbers you can see how many watched Asmon, Rich, Preach, etc when they streamed it. The viewer count is there…but again viewership doesn’t equate to popularity.
I also, generally, tend to understand that when people are no longer talking about something after a huge hype that they are generally involved with that thing still. So in other words, people aren’t talking about it because they’re ACTIVELY playing it…and as much as I complained last expansion that there wasn’t anything to do in 14 (LMAO) I have come to the conclusion that the difference between here and there is like an ocean to creek. 14 is an ocean of content and sure it’s not all for you, but at least it’s not a creek that people think is an ocean like WoW.
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Hildibrand! I just recently completed the ARR line and I’m about halfway through HW. It’s so hilarious.
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Oh I see, well wow has had a history of immortal tanks too. During BFA, tanks had a special corruption power that reflected damage back to attackers. Needless to say…it was broken beyond belief. A tank could go AFK and if another player attacked them, they would be one shot(damage scaled with tanks health). Blood dks were infamous for stealing health and always being immortals in big pulls. Warrior’s shield is insanely good. Dhs used to be god tanks and never died…you missed our golden age of immortality. We got nerfed naturally, and of course paladins got self heals.
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Preach is an interesting one. Dude only started playing because it was a goal during a sub-a-thon charity stream, never thought he would play it to a major degree, ended up loving the game, and his channel has grown ever since lol.
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We got elden ring hype now
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I think it’s just a horrible game to stream.
If the main draw is the story, you don’t want to go watch a stream that might be farther ahead or involved with something spoilery content wise that might ruin it for you.
Also, I don’t think the end game activates are all that fun. PvP in particular is a really weak area of the game. Not just WoW but even other MMOs like GW2 and Lostark do PvP far better than FF14 does.
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I started in Dec. I just caught up on them all.
Just you wait they get better! I can’t wait til the next patch and more of it!
True, I didn’t think he’d stick to it. But I knew as soon as Pyro sat down and got into it he’d be enjoying the hell out of it.
Right? They hate FF being brought up on WoW forums, then do it themselves lol
Worse still, they think Twitch viewership matters.
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What is the correlation between Twitch viewership and a game’s actual player base?
Your reasoning is specious. There is more to a game’s popularity than Twitch viewership.
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Has it really come to this father?
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World of Warcraft died because the developers only catered to casuals and world
That’s a forum post in FF, it’s almost like, wait it’s the same! In Limsa right now and there are 3 people advertising wow refugee guilds.
It’s really in all games.
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if Twitch viewership was not important , Square Enix wouldn’t pay streamers to play FF14
…I will never understand how catering to casuals “killed WoW”. Considering that there is so much forced mandatory things. Seems less like it was less casual catering and fake amusment park rides.
Tinfoil hat activated, they don’t.
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I didn’t say viewership wasn’t important, I questioned the correlation between viewership on a platform I (and many others) don’t use and a game’s popularity. Please read analytically.
open FF14 category , the top 2 streamers are paid by FF14 lol
#publicitéparSquarenix = #adforSquareenix
they are paid to play the game