It seems like Vulpera are useless to the horde

First off let me say I do like vulpera, might be degraded for saying that but I’m saying it.

I’ve heard people say “vulpera don’t fit the horde” but considering what they’ve been through I do feel like they fit into the horde, being enslaved is something many horde races know very well, goblins, orcs, trolls.

I just feel like Vulpera need more lore building for them but honestly I don’t see it coming at all with all the stuff going on with. I agree with a lot of what you said, they are seemingly useless for the horde but that honestly makes me sort of sad, the smaller races like Gnomes and Goblins use their tinkering abilities to supply each of their factions with very large machines while Vulpera don’t seem to really offer anything?

They just feel so weak, I don’t recall them even offering much for the horde in the first place, I want the vulpera to be a strong race that fits into the horde and can offer something for the most part, Kiro is just chillin in stormwind not doing much…

Does anyone know anything else about the lore?

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Remember that Gnomes got this treatment for a great many years.

They’re just there to make tech.

They’re comedy relief

No, remember the introduction quests in Zandalar. Remember the recruitment quests.

Vulpera are desperately needed because they’re off in the background, scavenging and repurposing everything they can find, mending holes in relationships between the Hordes member states and generally being a breath of fresh air to a faction riddled with doom and gloom.

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Personally feel as if they should have been a neutral race, but yeah they need more build up. I like what they have going so far but they need more.

Did you pay any attention to the quest text when unlocking the vulpera? They are scavengers and can live and thrive in the harshest of enviroments. This makes them useful for many reasons.

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When this character was Vulpera and Horde side, he was and seen many other Vulpera treated kinda pretty badly. So bad in fact I came up with a story to switch him to Alliance (I just say he’s half Pandaren now) and I am not sure if people were following the kind of lacking a story for them being there or what. I have mained Pandaren and Gnomes, 2 races historically disliked but I can safely say Vulpera are disliked more than both combined, and it’s weird…
Sure, I get it, they have a stereotype for the whole ERP thing, however, Worgen, Humans and Blood Elves (Blood Elves especially) do as well but you don’t really see the hate for them.

Either way and I said this before, all the allied races with the exception of Kul’Tiran and Zandalari (in my opinion) don’t have great backstories in why they joined their respective factions.

We are post-usefulness.

The allied races don’t make any sense and it’s foolhardy to try.

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Vulpera are plenty useful! They’re probably more honest merchants than goblins, or at least don’t sell things with a 50% blow up chance and no warranty

The races I scratch my head at are Void Elves and Nightborne. Nightborne are def useful with providing amazing magic firepower, I’m just not sure why they’re horde. And void elves… Don’t get me started on them.

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I think it’s easy to say this when at this point (if you are an avid RPer), interacting with a lot of the Vulpera and vulpera character concepts, sort of seem to divert a lot from what the story line was. At least, in my experience.
A lot of characters to me don’t seem to have the sense of need for survival, the spiritual nature of their lands and what little customs we were shown. No one talks about the importance of hyenas, alpacas, their wagon. No one really seems to think about what their character brings to the Horde.
Again, just my experience in the times I interact with vulpera characters.

But usefulness isn’t really what the Horde is about. This implies recruitment only in the means of bolstering numbers or having soldiers for war. This is sort of how the Zandalari were treated I feel, and the AU Mag’har. The Zandalari didn’t really have a want to seek out Horde unification until a reason was sort of forced on them. (There’s other things about their story where their connection to the Horde is/was beneficial but that’s not the point.)

The vulpera though, were a neutral people more or less and live in a harsh land. Where survival and knowledge of the wilds and it’s people determine if they live another day. Most everything is bigger than them, making them prey targets. Used like nothing by the Sethrak. Targeted by the Alliance. They were helping the Horde, they can relate to the Horde and they can relate to the Horde in the sense that this New Horde was formed for survival.

Thrall did not band together the tauren, orc, troll and forsaken because he thought they could do things for him. They’re together because they have reasons to help each other. They respect each other, share similar faith structures and need to look out for each other in a world that see them as well…people not worthy of life, land or safety. (Which is the prompt you’re basically given when you make a pandaren.)

The entire Horde is not made up of warriors or expert craftsmen. It’s a community of people of all types. Civilians, elderly, disabled and sick. Average people. People who contribute by keeping the traditions alive, by supporting their warriors and funding their local crafters. It lives and breaths.

So vulpera…simply just do, what everyone else does. They live, they contribute, they fight and they help be a part of a group where everyone has made them feel like they deserve to be outcasted for being different.

Vulpera would thrive in Durotar. They might offer insight into foraging, harvesting different plants, new water based technology such as systems to help purify it or different methods of anti-venom with how often they are exposed to deadly wasps, scorpids and cobras and dealing with the sethrak.
They can help cultivate food for the Horde, help it be even more sustainable. Contribute to farming, harvesting and transportation of goods. Education on traveling in the heat, how to cover your face, what not to wear (telling them what not to do based on observations of exiled Zandalari and others who did not make it long.)

Shamanic connection and furthering their bond with the people of the horde through spiritual means.

So yes, I’d say the vulpera are very useful. They are a hardy people, who survive, who revere the spirits and want to feel safe in a world who might seem them as unworthy - so maybe …to those out there, maybe rethink before having your character go on about skinning them and calling them rats as thinnly veiled IC disguise as your distaste , when all you do is make people feel bad.

I don’t come across many vulpera though, who take a lot of these into account. Most seem to act like they don’t want to be there, hate the Horde and orcs, are not actually a part of the Horde or they all try to divert away from their Vol’dun culture and thus…they all seem like they might not fit. (And this is largely because people keep wanting to hurt them in scenarios or even whisper them awful things. Be nice, man. Your wasting your time putting energy into telling someone you don’t know you hate their little fox person. See how silly that sounds?)

But I’ve come across a lot of great characters too. I hope this sort of helps!!

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You say this now, but just wait until the power goes out at 2AM. Then you’ll be crawling back to my Glow-in-the-Dark Draenei so that she’ll help you find your phone.

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definitely dont need vulpera for that. pretty sure theres a couple of guilds about that very thing

not sure why they would be alliance. bunch of randoms show up talking about “their home”

Nonsense! You don’t even need to kill & skin a Vulpera to wear one as underpants!

could make a lot more sense if blizzard did not segregate the playerbase behind an idiotic faction divide
imagine if someone else tried to make a game like this in 2022
‘oh hey so statistically half of you will only ever be in conflict with each other and that’s your interaction with that portion of the player base for the most part hope you love our game guys’
what a completely tonedeaf thing to do am i right
instead just let people play the game and explore the world of warcraft maybe and it would not really matter what you are playing at that point
build reputation with whatever factions you want as whatever race you decide to play

I seem to recall Garrosh’s whole reason for starting the Fourth War was because Durotar was already out of resources and the Horde needed more.

Strikes me a race of scavengers who survive/thrive in low-resource environments would be incredibly useful to the Horde.

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oh yea we did have a mini war…whys bfa called the 4th?

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I keep reading people wanted them to be neutral and not strictly Horde, which i agree with

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oo neutral and unplayable, uninterested in Horde or Alliance wars

we can use another neutral capital

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Yes please, have been asking for years

THAT WOULD BE SO COOL! I wonder if the new xpac will offer it. we gotta stop asking blizzard and start asking bill.

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