These people who insist on coming into random BGs with under 200K health are ruining the experience for everyone else. It really needs to stop.
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So u want everyone to farm M10+ before we go get honor gear? Then people are gonna say they can’t get in groups cuz their under geared. Then people will say make your own group but people will leave when they see it’s a carry. Also people aren’t spending 20k on a set when they can get full geared for pvp in like 2 hrs
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There is crafted pvp gear you can make yourself or buy on the AH.
What we are getting now are clowns who pay gold or have friends to have them powerleveled to 70 and step into BGs with SL gear. Totally selfish behavior with zero consideration for other players.
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You do not go from full crap gear to full honor/drakebreaker gear in two hours. Just stop.
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Gear is realm specific only so you can’t argue it’s cheap for everyone.
Here is what I would suggest.
No item level requirement for epic BGs (this is where undergeared people should be farming honor for their initial gear and it’s in their best interest to do it in epic BGs).
But, there needs to be an item level requirement for non-epic BGs. They are just wasting everyone’s time and degrading the quality of the BGs for other people.
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I do bgs before 70 to get ahead but horde 70s are ruining it
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Do BGs while leveling 60-70. Cap honor at 15k. Buy full set of honor gear at level 70. Very easy
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Also at lvl 60 u can do trophies of stripe quests
You can’t really expect everyone to do this. Some just want to rush to 70 as quickly as possible and BGs don’t give good experience.
They should raise the minimum ilvl CAP as this excludes many players who want to do PVP and not PVE. New players just get shot and that makes PVP lose a lot of appeal to have a healthy player base.
When I hit 70 on my Pally the first thing that I did was go to the AH and purchase the green 343 pvp gear. Cost me around 25K gold. Load into my first BG and I had the highest lvl on the entire team. Several 300-305 ilvl people in there.
Guess what they are crying about the entire game? “They outgear us”. It isn’t that hard folks.
i was makingthreads about gear gaps like 5 months ago.
i knew this was coming.
yup.
despite this being the very best gearing system of all time (besides legion) … people r still enteringBGs with their ilvl 220 greens.
my proposed solution:
upon hitting 70… send players a box in the mail that gives them a full set of pvp gear. the gear will be useless in pve (very low ilvl for pve) but scale up to say 390 in pvp.
this keeps the dragonslayers happy and still gives pvpers something to grind for
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It’s random battlegrounds so this is a non issue.
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It’s a huge issue, twerp. Most BGs are just trash quality because of this.
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Needing to farm gear to participate in random BGs is a terrible system. Random BGs is where you should go to start gearing up to compete in rated content. They should scale gear to keep the worst and best geared players to within 10-20% power of each other.
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I’m not sure what is going on with the scaling, because some of the gear scales but that doesn’t explain why you some times see people with 100K health.
Scaling for everyone to a higher bottom floor would work. Perhaps 370 or 380. So, a bit closer to the green pvp gear.
Or, no item level requirement for epic BGs but an item level requirement for non-epic BGs.
Then do epic BGs. You get more honor per hour from epics and have a much higher chance of winning being useless in a 40 man bg than you do being useless in a 10 man. Or just buy the boe gear for a few thousand gold and skip the grind entirely. You get more than enough gold from leveling 60-70 to afford it, and if your only interest is pvp you shouldn’t need the gold for anything else anyways. If you queue into a normal BG with anything less than 390 ilevel at this point in the expansion you are willfully greifing your team. Normal BGs should be held to the same standard as heroic dungeons. You can’t queue into heroic dungeons with shadowlands gear and leveling greens cause you’d be greifing the other 4 members of the dungeon. Same goes for BGs
Or just make rated the playground for tryharding. And there’s nothing wrong with tryharding. But there should be one place you don’t need to, and it should be random BGs. The most casual form of pvp is a solo player queueing for a random BG and the experience should be built to be a good one for joe average.
E: You just illustrated perfectly what’s wrong with your reasoning. Random BGs should not be analogous to heroics, they should be analogous to regular dungeons.