One day, I’m going to write a book entitled
“Bad Takes of General Discussion”
and this will be featured in it.
One day, I’m going to write a book entitled
“Bad Takes of General Discussion”
and this will be featured in it.
Obvious troll thread, but removing add-ons would single handedly butcher the RP community so hard pass from me…
…Then again, GD is allergic to fun so that alone may get people on board.
The overwhelming majority of addons are cosmetic, so saying ALL addons need to be banned is ridiculous.
Does WoW need to move away from designing content with addons such as DBM/BigWigs in mind? Absolutely.
But addons (or mods, as other games call them) help a player make WoW look and feel how they prefer it be, and doesn’t detract from the core game in any way.
This would limit scope of boss fights.
Why do people think this is a good thing?
I see add-ons as a proof-of-concept suggestions from the community for improvements that could and perhaps should be made to the base client.
WA should definitely be banned. DBM too, I think.
The problem with your perspective is you’re positioning Blizzard as not having agency in their own design decisions.
Addons do not force Blizzard to design more complex rotations, bosses or trash.
Blizzard chooses to design more complex rotations, bosses and trash, because they feel addons lower the accessibility floor.
We could infer from that that Blizzard wants some rotations, bosses and trash to be a certain difficulty for people, and they are willing to sacrifice the people who don’t use addons to set that difficulty for the people that do
— OR —
We could infer that Blizzard enjoys the design freedom that addons provide Blizzard [hey! we can make the most complex fights in the industry! We don’t have to have ridiculous neon-red damage zones as a warning queue! we can make more class abilities much more synergistic than anyone else], and they are willing to sacrifice the people who dont use addons to design a game no other MMO without addon’s could realistically build.
Either way, the arms race take is always a bad take. The arms race ends the day Blizzard decides to make boss fights doable without ability timers and Rotations doable without external UI assistance.
Ofc it will not be stale because of simple boss design.
The game already have multiple level of difficulties in raids (LFR/normal/heroic/mythic), that gives Blizzard different possibility.
And content like M+ itself is infinitely scaled. Its difficulty doesn’t depend on boss mechanics, but the multipliers.
If boss mechanics and designs are the reason for stale, then people will quit M+/raiding long time ago, because they are always fighting the same mechanics…
It’s time for battle tags on the WoW forums.
Can you name 3 boss fights in the last 3 tiers that have required addons to complete?
because they’re bad at the game, want it dumbed down, and want everyone pulled back to their level.
you rarely see anyone with higher end achievements making posts like this.
No game should design things around 3rd party mods.
While I agree that many addons should be implemented in the game itself, I doubt Blizzard would implement anything like the DPS meter because they know from a bleachers standpoint that it promotes “toxicity” in the community and they don’t want to carry that flag.
Same thing with a few other addons probably, they don’t want that liability but they’ll fully allow it. I believe the DPS meter is a great calculator to show your effectiveness in combat, but many people choose to use it instead to inflate their ego. What I’m saying is addons are a tool and not everybody wants to use them, for your idea to work Blizzard would need to make everything an option.
Additionally people who develop addons do get money for it in the way of donations from players and it’s a good opportunity for people to get some publicity in their skills. I support the addon developers who I believe are underappreciated in what they do, many players just download and move on but they provide great things to the game and it makes it feel more like a customizable experience.
I mean look at Skyrim, do you think people would love that game as much as they do without mods for example? With all that I just really disagree with the OP.
This is false.
See fatescribe
So what about addons that make the game more accessible for those that need the extra help?
It took you one comment to make your own bad take for your list.
It can’t be a bad take if it’s true
Addons have been a thing in wow since the beginning
nah, as the author, I have freedom to exclude myself
but do please show me where I’m wrong - what top end player wants addons banned?
This kind of behavior is why GD is such a meme.
Addons are useful and improve the experience for many. They’re also accessibility tools.
There’s no need to ban them.
The game is also very, very functional without them, outside of, like, Mythic Raiding.