Yes this is another post supporting Wrath of the Lich King era servers. This is just a point I think can’t be stressed enough.
Blizzard knows a lot of us don’t like Cataclysm, that’s why they asked us what we don’t like so they could improve it. The thing is, for many of us it doesn’t matter how much you improve Cataclysm. A lot of us don’t want to “start over” when Cataclysm hits. We want to take our time going through ICC, we want to roll alts, we want to be able to step away from the game for a couple months and not feel like we are behind when we come back.
Keep in mind the majority of the classic player base is much older and have jobs, responsibilities, kids, and other hobbies. Not everyone constantly wants their progress to be reset. That is why classic era and unofficial servers are so popular.
Bottom line: a very large chunk of us want to stay in Wrath. Blizzard is either going to provide us a means to do so or they are going to lose a sizable amount of players.
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The problem is people don’t come back. Look at Classic era.
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Classic era is doing great. Sure it’s not nearly as populated as it once was, but if anywhere near the amount of players playing vanilla era play Wrath era I would be thrilled.
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Perhaps in your opinion it is. But to a company trying to make money, how does it look?
We only need to look at the lack of TBC era to answer that.
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No TBC era is a missed opportunity, but seeing as Wrath is the most popular expansion in the history of the game I believe it’s a safe assumption that Wrath era will be much more populated than vanilla era.
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It didn’t start out that way though, the resurgence of Classic Era servers was because people decided to play hardcore on them which resulted in offical HC servers. How many people are on non-HC servers (genuine question) compared to the HC servers, I’d assume HC has a lot more players and the thing about HC is that it’s only going to bleed players because HC is a novelty game mode, one that loses its spark after so many deaths.
I think the resurgence of Classic Era also had a lot to do with Blizz dropping the ball with Wrath. Mythic dungeons turned the most accessible dungeon experience in the game’s history into a toxic, gatekeeping mess. Bots are everywhere. Everyone buys gold. GDKPs are the law of the land. So they went back to a simpler time on Classic Era…and from what I hear it’s now as tarnished as Wrath.
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Mythic? Do you mean the Titan Rune Dungeons? Honestly barely anyone were running normal and heroic dungeons, TR dungeons made people actually go into them with the Sidereal Essence and even more so with the addition of scourgestones as incentives, though I do think they went slightly overboard with what they included.
Personally I think that the gatekeeping you and I keep hearing of is just a product of todays playerbase wanting the path of least resistance, wanting an easy and smooth run with nothing that can go wrong and the first step to that is a gear score check. They don’t have the time nor don’t want to give the time towards players who aren’t up to their standards leading towards this toxic enviroment. I can see this being the case with or without TR dungeons though would likely be less of a problem since the players that’d be denying players wouldn’t be running them.
Everyone buys gold… While untrue, is quite accurate. I don’t buy gold, I’ve been very open on this forum about how I make my gold, posting my TSM gold graph multiple times but there are people in my guild that have bought gold. It was adonished at first but as time went on it became more and more normalized and accepted by members of my guild. It’s sad to see RMT be normalized especially so when the most popular form of pugging is GDKP’s.
GDKP’s aren’t inherently bad but it does promote RMT, even if indirectly. People spending hundreds of thousands of gold for a single item is just insane and it’s obvious who’s buying gold and who isn’t.
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Uh…you’re not going to lose anything going forward into Cata. No progress is being reset, you’re just having more stacked on top of it
Don’t get me wrong, I agree there should also be Wrath servers. But if your reasoning for wanting them is because you don’t want to lose your progress…that makes no sense
This I agree with. It gets old being told we don’t want it and that it won’t be profitable. Yes. It absolutely will.
Shoot. Have everyone pay like 60 bucks per character cloned to a permanent wrath server. You got bank on that deal. I would do it for 10 toons at least.
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Blizzard’s dream cu$tomer right here.
Cataclysm would have to be totally redesigned to “improve” it. I’ve suggested how to do this in a way that would make it not be a complete trainwreck of an expansion… but I doubt they’ll do any of it. They’re just going to copy/paste it as it was and cherry pick a few changes THEY (not the community) want.
Well, I mean it is the only thing they listen to anymore anyways.
If Cata is anything like it was last time and you played it back then, then you know exactly why you are wanting it so bad. If you didnt have a druid, you wouldn’t be saying that.
It makes perfect sense. There is very little difference between your Wrath main and a boosted fresh 80 going into Cataclysm. Questing is a bit easier and that’s it. Barely anything you did to that point counts for anything when the end game now begins at 85. It’s not a literal reset, but in the ways that matter to me and many others it is.
That’s not a reset. If you have your 4-piece tier 10 in Wrath, you will still have your 4-piece tier 10 in Cata. You are not losing anything, they are adding on to your progress
I think a Hardcore Wrath Server would be great! Regular Wrath is bleh.
Ikr – talk about progress reset 
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Considering Classic vanilla had way more players than Classic Wrath, that is a bold assumption to make.
Pretty sure I already explained this.