Isn't ESO just a better version of what people want from Classic?

Playing ESO after a very long break and game is amazing if you focus on what made MMOs like classic fun back in the day. Being immersed in a world where the leveling experience is very satisfying on its own. The quests are probably the best I have seen in a MMO but I am playing the Marrowind expansion currently which might be more polished. I have zero interest in reaching the end game because the leveling is so well done (like classic WoW).

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I found the combat and artstyle of ESO to be very awful. No impact, uninteresting abilities that aren’t visceral, but I often find a lot of “realistic-looking” MMOs have that flaw.

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ESO’s problem is the limit of abilities. 10 max(including buffs) with 2 ultimates. Most of your main bar is typically a passive you get for having it slotted, a couple of dots, and then a spam ability. So no, not like Vanilla. ESO in that regard is more like modern wow.

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ESO is a good game. I enjoyed playing it. But if you are a collector type, it gets expensive fast.

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I never found ESO terribly engaging. It has elements that I like, of course, but many MMOs get that from me.

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Not exactly. here is a video that compares wow, ff and eso. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqQzshaBlwI

everyone has their own opinions, i never played eso so mine doesn’t count at the moment! :smiley:

This is also a problem. The classes play different yet the skills always end up feeling the same. Out of 10 skills 1-2 are buff. 2-3 are dots. 1-2 are aoe. 2-3 are single target direct target.

So as you play you find yourself In the same pattern again and again on all the classes. Buff/dot/damage repeat. And while timing are different on the classes so they can feel different, they are all the same.

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I bought ESO to try it after seeing everyone elses comments on here. I cant believe its in the same category of game as WoW, EQ, LOTRO, SWG, SWTOR and the rest. Beautiful game no doubt, but I cant see it playing anything like an MMORPG.

leveling in classic wow was absolutely terrible.

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ESO is poo.

They don’t have trolls…

So, no.

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ESO is a console game you can play on your computer. It has no depth or complexity in how you interact with the game world. “Mastering” your class takes about 10 minutes. Vanilla did not have the best classes, not by a long shot, but it was 1000 times better than ESO in that regard.

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I love ESO. But I really, really hate the combat in ESO. So I can only play it for a few months before getting completely bored and taking a break. Other games do action combat so much better, but ESO’s over reliance on light attack weaving, its unresponsiveness and how very quickly you run out of resources even in resource heavy builds which forces you to just sit and auto attack is really frustrating.

Oh, and this, too! Especially if you’re playing magic based. No matter what class you’re playing you’re going to have the exact same 2-3 spells from the staff every time. So little variety.

I thought ESO stood for Edmonton Symphony Orchestra? Acronyms are clearly not my friend . . :frowning:

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Um no. People want to play classic WOW not ESO.

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I tried ESO for awhile but didn’t really like it. While leveling at least, everything was trivially easy. More-so than current WoW, by quite a lot. It’s very difficult to care about progressing my character when I kill everything instantly and never go below 90% hp regardless.

The build system was also awful. Everything feels the same except with maybe 2 unique skills. Want to play a melee class? You’re using the same few dual wield skills as every single other melee character, constantly weapon switching to a bow for its damage skills like every other melee character, and you’re using 1-2 skills unique to your class. And there are barely any classes.

Abilities in general just feel like crap. Pressing buttons in WoW feels punchy in a way that ESO does not. And it completely lacks cool and fun movement/utility stuff which is my favorite part of WoW combat.

Admittedly I didn’t get to max level, but everything I’ve read says there isn’t much of an endgame anyways. Not a fan.

Really, I’m not sure what comparisons you’re drawing with vanilla at all. As far as I’m concerned, the main appeal of vanilla is that it is a very social experience, it doesn’t treat you like a baby, and it actually feels like a world to some extent. I didn’t get any of that out of ESO. Quite the opposite.

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The combat is twitchy, with animation cancelling. Optimizing your rotation requires going back and forth on your equipped weapons half of the time

Once you level up your champion level a bit, the open world is ridiculously easy, way more than a 370 ilvl player would experience in WoW. I’m at 490 on my templar, and regular mobs go down with a single jab, which hits everything in front of you.

Dungeons are either face roll, or mythic level, and if you own the DLCs, or are subbed, you have a regular chance to get the difficult ones as a random. DLC dungeons are not doable with 90% of the pugs you get matched up with. They may have changed it, but when I was playing regularly, I would get very low level players in a dungeon that well geared groups had trouble with.

The scaling is weird. You lose stats as you level. Why should I lose health and power because I went from 30 to 31? You aren’t much stronger as a fresh 50 than you are as a fresh level 1.

The questing is alright. It is a lot of back and forth for a single quest item, but the stories are pretty good

The gearing is interesting. That is the bulk of your build, which is good and bad. If the meta changes, you have to farm at least one set of gear, probably from the newest, difficult dungeon, then you have to upgrade it.

Combat also never changes much. I’ve been doing the same basic rotation for years. New gear doesn’t change it. There are many abilities that just don’t get used.

The graphics are nice.

Crafting is just a huge time gate, but neccessary to an extent, to be able to upgrade gear.

I think you’re missing the point of what people want from classic. It is a more RPG version of WoW, not just a classic style RPG. Also, open world in classic was difficult. Going out in the world feels dangerous, for many reasons.

ESO is not like vanilla WoW at all.

That said, if you like the Elder Scrolls games, you’ll enjoy ESO.

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You can’t compare the two. They offer different things.

ESOs classes are legit awful and unfun.