Isn’t cata the reason why many wanted vanilla again?

Maybe at the deep dive they’ll remove some of my worries. But I really think flying/multiple portals to get everywhere killed the drive of the community, as well as LFR/LFD, I doubt those two will return. I also don’t believe they’ll add cata talent tree system, the “cookie cutter”. I’m sure that’ll stay away.

But wasn’t the overworld revamp from cata part of the reason why we wanted classic back? I love old Loch Modan, I love old Barrens, I love old Org/SW. Having to run/ride ground mounts everywhere made the world feel really alive and immersive.

I can’t see myself playing cata classic if they’re gonna revamp the world and add flying in the overworld.

Shame there’s no classic+ yet, im sure it’s bound to happen, and I don’t mind them trying to do a Cata 2.0 and make it better than what it was. But please end it here, MOP-WOD 2.0’s would just be silly.

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Yes. It is.

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Some do say that. I won’t be playing it. The first time was enough.

People say that only those who didn’t play cata or couldn’t hack it didn’t like it. I was running a guild. We killed heroic raid bosses. We did prenerf stuff both some of the raids things and all of the dungeons. I don’t want to do that again. Ever. The game did feel a lot like Retail does today back then. So on what continent would I want to repeat that? I’d just play Retail World of Bloatcraft.

It doesn’t sound like there will be a Wrath Era so I feel bad for those players who wanted that. They’ll get to move on with their lives though and be done with WoW. I know like 10 people in this boat from my Wrath days. They really can just quit whenever now whenever their last goal is finished.

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That happens to not be the case.

Two of the best things the game has ever seen.

Next to the WoW token, of course.

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Just remember , while going through Cata the first time, SAVE all the BoE greens you can get your hands on. Remember how they were big money for people twinking and as leveling gear for alts.

I wont go into Cata with a broken GDKP Wrath progression DEAD OPEN WORLD. They should launch Cata FRESH and let people EXPERIENCE the brand new world leveling through it rather than power creep steamrolling through it on alts with every enchant. It’s DOA. Wish theyd buff open world content as well and put elites back in. Cata DOA except to those who nostalgia for it

OP is correct, but blizzard saw an easy cash-grab to sell cosmetics with a fire glow.

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A lot of us got sick of the H+ dungeons and left already. It was pretty obvious Blizzard had no intention on giving us a true Wrath experience from the start. Especially how they actively destroyed the fresh servers.

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Yeah I mean, agreed. I’ve left.

I logged on and liquidated everything. I already spent all my gold on tokens but hadn’t sold the items yet. I’ve gotten 2 tokens already and maybe 2 more later if the price doesn’t go up too much. Then I won’t log into those characters again until I want to use the tokens and only for that.

So, now we have …

Classic Era, but only gold buyers and bots.

Retail.

Retail Lite (Cata re-release)

Hardcore Vanilla

And Ascension rip off.

Its crazy how good Blizzard is at making all the worst decisions.

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All I want is for my characters to stay in the pre-Cata world permanently. No loss of everything they did. No loss of their names. No starting over. No Cata forced on them.

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Yes, no one wants cata.

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Man, I got bad news for you…

Yes, which is why it’s so perplexing that they would even announce Cataclysm Classic to begin with.

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I feel for you. Honestly.

For me, Vanilla itself is why I wanted Vanilla. Tbc/Wrath are both mid and retail compared to Vanilla. That said, I also enjoy doing hard end game PvE content and enjoy WoW PvP. Cata is really good at both of those things.

For me maybe the biggest turnoff of Cata was what it did to the world. It replaced functional (if sometimes tedious) questing with loads of memes that staled quickly, removed elites, and wrecked beloved areas. A lot of the terrain work that was done on the two continents to make them flyable was of very low quality too, being obvious rush jobs resulting from biting off more than the team could chew.

It also made a mess of the questing timeline.

I never have come around to “new” goblins, either. For reasons I can’t put my finger on they’re more grating than pre-Cata goblins and I can’t imagine ever playing one.

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Vanilla is why we wanted Vanilla.

cata fresh would make the most since with all the RMT and botting and how out of control things are.

So they wont do that.

Old Zones, Old Quests, Old Talents (where you can mix specs), Old Dungeons, Old Models. That was the appeal to classic. I don’t mind Cata, but I really hope we can keep Wrath servers or at least have Chromie time for Pre-Cata.