welcome to every raiding guild ever
Funny, OPâs guild is our furthest progressed on Amanâthul iirc.
But why necro this?
In my previous guild Iâve never done any m+ or raid with anyone (due to 12 hours time difference, I never made it for their weekly raid night), but anytime I saw my GL or those officers (GLâs real life friends) Iâll say hi (because I saw other people saying hi and I felt compelled to do the same) and chat with them for a bit. After they know me, theyâll say hi to me when I came online, but no key invite though, they knew that I havenât got to that part of the game yet as I was quite new to WoW.
So I guess I was part of that clique group and I vaguely remember that there might be some other people who got ignored in guild chat.
Iâm a guild officer, and yes there are cliques, but has more to do with who is sociable and who is not. Hell Iâve multi masked carried some people or helped in their low keys in the guild simply because they asked nicely 
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How would you like to be a head in a new upstart guild?
I dont agree with cliques in guilds because based on what ive seen previously on how cliques work is it doesnt feel like a guild and starts to feel more like highschool (especially when the guild drama queens/kings are involved). Thankfully my guild is not like that. We help everyone, talk to everyone and make everyone feel welcome regardless of level, ilvl or content experience.
Life is âCliqueyâ unfortunately. Been in the same guild since vanilla, I donât know any of the newer members, and Only 2-3 of us are left from then. I am quiet af in chat nowadays and donât get invited to any events. And am ignored in chat. Not even sure why I am still there anymore.
They aint what they used to be. People just hop from one to another based on how the guild can help their progression for the latest patch.
Well I donât exactly pay 15$ a month to run you through stuff. iâd rather be pushing a 22 with people that have the ability to that I like being around, than pulling someone through a 15 that pulls 40k dps and dies 5 times to mechanics so we barely time the key.
If you want that, then buy a WoW token and buy some runs. Maybe your guildies will take up the offer if you pay them 
My classic guild is pretty good, people will jump on alts to do a dungeon or just nuke it for you on their 60. Iâm like an entry level member and Iâve been helped quite a bit with no strings attached.
In retail things are a bit different. Iâve been in a few and getting a raid spot was pretty difficult, and you really donât need a guild to do anything else in retail, hence why Iâm not in one currently. Probably gonna make a bank guild just for my brother and I.
I couldnât imagine enjoying classic without a real actual guild. Canât say the same for retail. It is what it is, there are fewer things you actually need help with so you end up feeling like a dead weight if you do ask for help, in my experience.
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As the only member, yes.
I mean its human nature to gravitate towards people with either similar interests or whom you simply get along with.
Thatâs why you teach them 4head. You donât need a guild at that point, recruit less so you donât have such problems. Youâre expected to help people gear out, it makes the guild stronger. What do you think this is? Some kind of plantation where new recruits farm mats for you, for your flasks and get nothing in return?
Clique guilds suck, and ruin the game. The guild I had in classic was far superior to the ones I got through in retail. Some were really nice people, unfortunate but it got really annoying that I put 100s of mats out but canât get help for a key or enough for a one 15 a week yet I am a mythic raider. Thatâs bizarre.
If you canât pug yourself to mythic raiding then I donât want you in my guild anyway.
The hell would I ever want to apply to your s*** guild anyway, why would anyone? You expect members to pug? Who the f*** would want to join? Itâs fine, Iâll pug, you can pass the sausage in your little group but donât call it a guild.
We donât want you anyway, females only no guys allowed.
Simmer down, folks.
Also on topic, arenât most guilds kinda clique-y? That just sort of happens when you group large numbers of people together. Like-minded folks tend to gravitate to each other.
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Yes, thatâs fine but it shouldnât be at the expense of other members, if you have recruits who need help, you should help them and vice versa. Otherwise it turns into a caste system where the officers get all the goods and the members get the igg and get nothing.
Having a clique is usually a death sentence, it annoys people more than you think.
The last guild I actually enjoyed being in, where I finally felt comfortable socializing with people and looked forward to hanging out with, I left because my long time friend and the guild leaders didnât get along and they gave him lots of crap⌠Me, him, and a few friends left⌠and then him and those friends went alliance and I donât ever get to play with them anymore (nor do they do the level of content I like to do). So, Iâve been stuck ever since.
Now most of my toons are spread between 3 different servers and 4 different guilds. I try to find a guild I like but apparently Iâm hard to like at first? Idk. I met someone in that guild that left too and me and her still okay together. Sheâs basically my best friend now. Like my little sister. One of the major reasons I still play. But even then, she said she thought I was a total judgy A-Hole when I first started playing with all of them. Apparently Iâm too quiet and reserved and it gives off a bad vibe initially.
Iâd love to find a guild that I could have friends to regularly play with. All of the âbestâ times Iâve ever had in this game boil down to the social experiences at the time. Without them, the games pretty bland.
I find this is why âcliquesâ happen, in general - itâs hard to be genuine friends with everyone when the roster count begins to number into the 20s and 30s, so naturally people will tend to stick to a circle theyâre familiar with - usually the âinner circleâ by simple nature of them having been around longer.
The best solution, therefore, is to join or form your own tight-knit guild (such as yoursâ), keep the numbers reasonable, and keep it to people you enjoy the company of.
Is that, in essence, making another âcliqueâ? Yeeeeesss, but these things are unavoidable, people are gonna stick with the people they like - that doesnât mean thereâs anything wrong with you, it just means you donât gel with the guild youâre in! Keep looking, people.