Is Warrior really that bad at duels

I hit rival 1 in RSS and noticed i barely dueled this xpac

Dueled a Demonology as Arms and couldn’t crack his massive absorb even witht alented Wrecking throw, feared his pets and eventually just expired. Lost twice.

Dueled a frost mage as Fury, and even with bloodrage didn’t have enough root breaks and his position swap to old hp was such a low cd he used it twice.

Am I just bad or is Warrior really that bad at duels against casters?

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Well there’s your problem.

Well there’s your problem.

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yes, warrior is generally bad at 1v1’s due to little/no self healing, no immunity-like spell, no ret paladin/fire mage instant burst.

Im behind on how busted individual specs are.

Ive flipped game modes since when i used to play primarily dueling.

Anyways demo lock flew off when i changed to Fury and pm’ed me i suck he always loses to Arms then logged.

Felt kinda lame.

Game isn’t really balanced around 1v1. Demo lock’s survivability is bananas. Locks in general are pretty good in 1v1s with their self healing, and the pvp talent that reduces the target’s damage to you by 36% (I think) if you drain life them. The death pact shield is absolutely immense, and you can’t really lock their damage down that well since a lot of it comes from the demons.
Mage has always just been a nightmare for warrior.

There are a lot of specs you have a better 1v1 against. Those are probably the two worst possible ones for you.

we have a TON of healing. Even as arms. Stormwall, fueled by violence, bitter immunity, impending victory, Pain and gain. Our self healing is absurd.

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hmm, and despite all this, warrior is still the worst 1v1 class in the game. almost like 3/4 of these do almost nothing in a fast paced, big burst meta.

Stormwall - Nobody plays this over IP, and even if they did, it’s only useful to zug melee that are attacking into your parry for no reason.

Fueled by violence will barely heal 100k in a 2minute arena match where you can cleaving 2 melee. AKA it’s not going to do anything in a 10 second duel.

Pain and Gain - See deep wounds, heals for around the same amount and you will be lucky to get more than 2 ticks of it in a duel.

Bitter immunity is a 20% heal on a 3minute cooldown. This just isn’t going to do anything unless it can remove bleeds. Some builds don’t even run this talent because it’s that useless.

The only one worth mentioning is IV, which for most of the entire game warrior did not have, and when we did, we had to pick bolt or double charge over it because again, the heal isn’t really all that impactful. I seriously cannot think of a spec that has less healing than warrior

The only time arms has had self healing that actually did something was MoP second wind.

Fury has had whatever selfhealing but the spec has been historically bad, it had really good selfhealing at DF launch until crybabies got it nerfed when they should’ve instead shifted damage to furys other rotational abilities so that you weren’t literally just spamming BT BT BT RAMPAGE over and over, now future fury will suffer from this.

To say arms selfhealing (arms since you mention arms talents in particular) is absurd is a flat out overexaggeration.

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Warrior may not have the best self-healing but it is considerably better than … DH / Monk ?

talkin 1v1s and you go on about arena

Yeah looks like my findings are some casters need the raw tank to survive zugzug arenas and 1v1 balance is just worst that it’s ever been

Probably gonna migrate to another plate spec just for the casual rofl zugs I get into to keep myself up, next season.

Fury felt nice but if it’s being root DR’ed even with Bloodrages by some specs I’d rather have option of group supportor healing other folks.