Is Vengeance a “noob” tank?

I’ve seen this and heard it from various streamers. What’s everyone’s take… are they a noob tank?

No.

They are a “new” tank at best, but that doesn’t make them any worse than any other tank.

I’ve seen a few DH tanks that are very good. One of our main raid tanks is a DH and he helped us clear the guild’s first AOTC together.

Now, as for whether or not “noobs” think they can tank as them… well, that’s something else entirely.

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The opposite, actually.

They’re noob from the perspective of: small toolkit, flashy spells, and a fairly wide offensive utility (CC, purge).

The flipside to that is that improperly using the small toolkit or utility yields poor play very quickly. Combine that with DH’s inherent squishiness and a bad player will very quickly be revealed on a Vengeance DH. Whereas something like a bear, paladin, or warrior has a lot more forgiveness.

Regardless of class though, a good player will shine on whatever class they play on over a noob player.

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It’s not a noob tank…it’s a tank that noobs might try, but unless you know what you’re doing with the kit…it becomes apparent fast after you go from hero to 0 in a few seconds.

I appreciate all the replies. I’ve been doing 6s on mine. I also tank with a blood DK and am debating between the two going into SL. I have a great time on each.

I feel the DH is slightly less forgiving. It’s definitely noticeable when your mitigation is down. A ton of fun, though.

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When you’re historically one of the worst tanks consistently and you’ve only been around 2 xpacs idk why anyone would say noob ez…

Although most I hear from raiders/m+ is guardian seems to be the most simple. But tanking difficulty really depends on the content. Playing m+ for example you lead, routes, and deal with mechanics like everyone else but have more impact on some mechanics. Whereas raids tend to have more cliche tank swap mechanics and you generally on average have to deal with less mechanics than the rest of the raid.

Tanking is much more about what and how you do things then so much the class.

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Just play what you like. If the time arrives where you want to reroll it will be a decision you arrive at on your own.

The starkest contrast I think for me that’s come up is testing something like spiteful on a BDK vs. Vengeance. I get that Vengeance is a new specialization, as is Havoc, but it’s not aged into something with more nuance. Losing things going into BFA and only picking up Fel Devestation and Revel in Pain going into Shadowlands, I expect the spec to be ‘mature’ in like ten years at the rate things have been going and I can’t really think of a reason why. It’s a popular spec in spite of its problems, is it because there isn’t a big streamer voice putting developers to task on twitter?

Vengeance is a tank that plays like a DPS, but I would say that Guardian is the most simple.

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DH generally gets a lot of disservice.

Are you refering to the meta aspect of VDH? I used to love tanking on mine when spirit bomb were viable at endgame. It was truly the tanking that plays like dps.

I play a guardian druid.

One time for fun I macroed ironfur to thrash and swipe and only used two buttons set to mouse wheel up (thrash) and mouse wheel down (swipe).

Did just fine.

(This may not be the case in Systemlands, but only because of nerfs, not because of increased complexity)

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No. But it is a tank Bluzz clearly does not favor.

all tanks but maybe a BM monk id say a “noob” could pick up pretty easy imo majority of the tanks are easy to play.

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No tanking class is difficult to play. None of them are fun to play which is why tanks are a dying breed.

That’s funny because I find them all quite fun to play. Definitely different than playing a DPS or healer but fine nonetheless. As a matter of fact, I find DPS to be the most boring…

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The rest of the WoW community disagrees with your assessment unfortunately. I don’t mind tanking personally, but i do find it rather boring, which is probably a similar opinion since we’re not flooded with players wanting to tank all the time.

Yea, that’s very true. I have to say I don’t mind. I enjoy the opportunity to get into mythics at about any time instead of being forced to wait…

Guardian is BFA’s noob tank, and Brewmaster is SL’s.

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I’d say that every tank with high mobility minus monks are noob friendly. Having high mobility give you more time to react to telegraphed mechanics.

Aside of that, every tank beside monks are so simple to play. The challenge comes from the job itself, rather then the class.

Tanks, everyone is a Tank! So easy to play, thats why!
Never use LFG when you’re playing a Tank, you’ll be there all day!
Right? right? rightttt…