Is Unholy overtuned or something?

Swapped over to Unholy due to crashing DPS with Frost.
Now its just the opposite. Seems as if Unholy is a bit much on DPS.
Getting #1 on DPS nearly every single run, which I guess is ok…except that its like 20% higher than the next player down the list.
I know Im not that good of a player for it to be my skills. Im basically a key banger sort.
Is the spec like this in the 80s and up to 90?

Went from one extreme to the other it would seem.

Frost really is mediocre, however unholy can pull top 4 easily, depending on what you are doing… it’s not over tuned as many classes can pull better in similar gear, but if you are going from Frost to unholy, especially in PvP, it can feel like a revelation

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ah…ok.
Not pvp but just really topping the charts in dungeons and I know Im not that good a player.
Just wondering, for the most part.

Don’t take leveling numbers too seriously. Leveling is always wonky, power levels swing and spike, and ultimately mean almost nothing at cap.

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Overtuned? Maybe. Better than Frost? Yeah, by a lot. Frost is a bottom tier damage class right now until their upcoming buffs hopefully fix them up again. UDK is in a pretty OK to Good place right now, so the dps sounds about right.

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like again, I just ran and was 30.7% higher than the next player down.
This one was a bit more extreme than the others, though.
Im locking the character at 90 so Im wondering if its going to stay like this.

to make frost have good dps you need alot of mastery. around 60%. but 8.2 frost Dk getting a good buff.

oh…didnt know that.
Im not overly educated on the numbers.

So, these are the two current active raids in this tier:

Battle for Dazar’alor
Crucible of Storms

Note that Unholy is #2 worst spec for Battle for Dazar’alor, and the #1 worst spec for Crucible of Storms.

Even if you are talking M+ Unholy is only solid in the middle for spec utilization.

So…

Overtuned?

The reality is it’s severely under tuned right now.

I recognize you are talking about locking in at 90, but that’s not how the game is really tuned. Blizzard pays most of their attention to tuning for the current content. And for that Unholy has been left to rot. Even in Uldir we were way under Frost’s performance and not in a great place.

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ah…ok.
Probably is just that Im lower level then.
Im almost 89, going to lock it at 90 tomorrow to keep it in MoP content…

Another odd thing is those world elites around the map that you get gear drops from in MoP.
Well as Blood they stomp my guts out.
But if I go back and fight it again with Unholy my health bar barely moves.
Could it be my gear doing that? That its more tuned to unholy or something?

compare boss fights only. trash pulls don’t mean squat.

Do anything thats not a pug and youll be lucky being top 5 on boss fights.

Well, thats good to know.
I hate it when the game seems like its doing me favors.
Wish theyd do better with the blasted math so you have to work to get a decent DPS.

I feel like this shouldn’t be given a response at how idiotic it sounds, but I’m curious enough to ask anyway.

What.

Frost’s damage isn’t bad though? It’s just overly reliant on breath windows, which are being fixed. It’s screwed by fight design even more dramatically than most.

No, unholy is definately not overtuned. Frost is just terrible right now.

Either you run with terrible dps, or your tank pulls massive packs to aoe. Unholy shines in heavy aoe, but is mediocre otherwise.

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you do understand the game uses numbers for damage and all that crap, right?
they suck at it with this game.
Pretty common knowledge given all the complaints.
Didnt sound idiotic at all except to maybe someone who thought all that damage we do was real flesh wounds :joy:

So people not liking how their specs play, means they suck at math.

What.

I see.
Im even having problems with blood at this point.
I mean, I get snuffed by MoP elites running blood that unholy is stomping into the ground pretty easily.
Cant possibly be that they looked at this and thought it was remotely reasonable.

Could be my luck in randoms.
I have noticed a few players have been closer since Ive been around level 90.
It just feels like its been over powered compared to the other two specs and especially in dungeons with other classes.
Just banging keys it seems to be able to stay well over 10% of the next class down.

I think these guys think its me doing it. A couple players have been running a DPS meter and even mentioned the DPS when we’ve been in MoP runs. Ive just told them I think the spec has got something wonky going on at this level.
I dont do bad in dungeons, dont get me wrong, but I aint a number smith or anything were Im squeezing out every point of damage.
I set up my rotation and bang keys. Absolutely no reason at all that I should be remotely much above average on DPS most of the time.

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dude…there are complaints all over these forums about class imbalances. It ALL comes down to the math.

And do you know why?

The answer is no, you don’t, you honestly were asking if Unholy was overtuned because you topped damage in a few leveling dungeons before you even hit 100.

And your great evidence for them sucking at math is…the forums.

You have a solid yikes from me.

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hehe =]

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