Not really. Draenei soulpriests have been using shadow magic since forever, and they’ve never been void users.
Just because Blizz has decided to make priest players void-only users doesn’t mean everyone else is that as well.
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I miss when shadow priests weren’t discount Cthulhu cultists.
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Isn’t Shadowmeld (the kaldorei racial ability) itself said to be a gift from Elune?
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They aren’t!..if you’re a Forsaken or Troll.
Everyone elses elaboration on what a Shadow Priest is besides ‘Old Gods Yo’ is non-existent post Legion.
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if it was void tyrande as well as every night elf with black eyes would be hearing whispers to some extent.
If Tyrande and other Night Warrior employ some form of Void Magic I can only imagine it is through the cosmic lens of Elune, thus her divinity protects them from the negative side effects, namely the Whispers that slowly drive the Void Elves insane.
That said, I really don’t think it’s Void Magic. A lot of her abilities seem to be enhanced versions of the standard fair; starfall/moonfire, which counts as arcane damage.
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That actually makes sense! It would make sense that a divine being would have two sides and not be limited to one school of magic. The Light/Arcane side and the Shadow/Void sde. So it also brings Kal’dorei and Ren’dorei not only into a closer ties as family it forges a common bond of using dark magics to end the Horde, and ironically the Alliance is okay with it.
The void and void lords are just one aspect of shadow magics I am sure. There have been users of shadow in lore for decades without any overt void connection as far as whispers and extreme nihilism go.
Like we know some hunters use nature magic but aren’t best friends with wild gods.
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Menstrual Magic
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That would be Light Arcane/Fel and Shadow/Void. Or possibly Light/Shadow/Void/
I cant imagine Elune being that okay with Fel, but who knows what the goddess wants, but she should definitely be using shadow magics at the very least. I like the new eye customization for Night Elves it reminds me of the Drow.
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i get your point totally, but maybe tyrande IS like alleria 2.0, she might use a kind of void magic but uses “Elune” (her moon goddess) to kinda filter out or bypass the void whispers / old god influence somehow. void elves dont work with void lords, they use their power and defy them, same with demon hunters with fel
kinda like, how n. elves use moonwells (with elune’s power) to tap into arcane energy maybe?
Darkness =/= Void.
this is just the Jaina is a Dreadlord with pointy new ears.
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But why does Elune’s shadow abilities have to be associated with the Void lords or old gods? Is it not possible the she transcends that categorization. The moon does have a dark side but that doesn’t have to mean void. The abilite to shadowmeld was a gift from Elune, and if her shadow abilities are connected the void the Night elves would been in someway connected to is for thousands of years. I think Tyrande’s new abilites are of shadow but with out being the all devouring void.
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shadow magic though does seem to be associated with the void in at least ret-conned lore, look at the shadow priest artifact quest and everything
No, Void-Lords are their own thing, Naaru can become what are known as a ‘Void-God’.
People speculate on the playing field, Naaru are on the same alignment as Old-Gods, to where the Old Gods have allegiance to the Void Lords, people speculate Naaru have allegiance to the alternative ‘Light-Lords’ or something - which they believe Elune to be one of.
I Personally believe however if that were the case, Elune would be a discipline of the such - a balance of the two.
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I assume you mean that ret con was in legion with that quest. I don’t disagree that shadow is associated with the void, i’m saying in this case it may be different. Shadow just may be a natural aspect of her power, but with out the darkness and insanity that is associated with the void. Her light is present within shadow, the night. It makes sense.
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Thing is, we’re given indication they simply are the same in the lore. Technically shadow magic / void magic are expressions of shadow.
Light and Shadow are the most fundamental forces in existence. Although contradictory by their very nature, they are bound together on a cosmic scale. One cannot exist without the other. Pure Light and Shadow dwell in a realm outside the borders of reality, but shades of their presence are found in the physical universe. Light manifests as holy magic, white Shadow (also referred to as “the Void”) appears as shadow magic.
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In my first statement I said that the abilities used by Tyrande from Elune may be void adjacent. It’s entirely possible that she is a balance of both light and shadow. It can be shadow without the influence of the old gods or void lords. Therefore not needed to be the maddening, devouring intity that it usually is.
Only thing that I wonder about is that line whe Tyrande says she is going to sate the Night Warriors vengeance. I’m hoping that’s just a thirst for battle. But even so the void wants the end of all life not just revenge and if it was void that wanted to kill everything, the elcrs didn’t have tried it so many times after the first success of the ritual.
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I don’t think it’s ununique just because two different peoples using the same kind of magic. When it has the same flavor is when it starts to get a bit on the samey side. Elune-granted void magic is unique enough from straight-up Void from the darkest depths of the unknown, it’s more a “Dark-side of the Moon” sort of thing than “Eldritch magic from outside of reality”.
Sure, but I wouldn’t say “Moon magic” is a very solid idea either. Space-related magics all have different sources, even Elunite magics itself seem to vary aside from the whole Night Warrior thing.
I think it very well might depend on what you consider Void Magic, and whether or not this is shadow. Shadow and Void are very well connected, and perhaps even the same thing in most instances.
Velen once speculated that Elune might be a Naaru hereself, and Khadgar goes even further to say that she created the Naaru. There’s something to it considering we do what he asks of us based on that speculation and it worked.
It’s not that crazy, considering the storyline with the Night Elves recently, it could honestly go anywhere. Not to mention, this looks suspiciously like shadow.
Void or Shadow=/= always Void Lords and Old Gods
Least that’s what I’ve seen suggests. Sharing a kind of magic doesn’t mean an association. Just like how Warlocks can use fel without it directly having to do with the Legion.
Doesn’t seem out of the question. A creature of both Light and Shadow.
Would be an extremely exceptional one, though, considering what happens when Light and Shadow interact.