So the part that you’re glossing over:
And again: that was back in The Burning Crusade, not even counting everything Khadgar does alongside Horde players during Warlords of Draenor and Legion.
There’s a very good reason he pretty much says, “Screw this faction warfare BS, I’m going back to Karazhan” at the start of Battle for Azeroth.
Considering Khadgar never left Shattrath he witnessed nothing, never spoke to Nazgrel, etc… he just heard everything that was going on. So I repeat:
He was literally in a position of command during the Outland Campaign; he would have been getting reports coming in from all over, from Hellfire Peninsula to Zangarmarsh to the Blade’s Edge Mountains.
He’s also an extremely-powerful mage who had a power Naaru next to him; you think he wasn’t using scrying to get constant status reports on how the war against both the Illidari and the Legion was going?
So no, it’s not good enough for Turalyon.
Because unlike Khadgar, Turalyon has zero experience of actually fighting alongside the Horde against a mutual enemy.
Neither did Khadgar until WoD, but WoD starts and he already treats the Horde well, with his own experience being reports about stuff they’ve done. We don’t have any evidence of him conducting scrying rituals to watch these things unfold either.
Yet, has plenty of experience fighting against the Horde, and its individual races. Orcs are obvious, but he didn’t seem to spend much time in Outlands to be forced to get to know the locals. Trolls have a long history of being antagonistic towards the Alliance races. He also seemed aware enough of the Undead to consider them enough of a threat to try to attack Faol at first sight. And Faol literally had to leave himself open to being destroyed AND have that deep personal connection with Turalyon to change his mind.
Turalyon has had a very antagonistic relationship with the Horde and its races, and nothing we’ve really done since he got back should change that impression of us. Hell, outside of the Elves, those races (like the Tauren) that he did not have prior relationships with … he didn’t even know existed before Argus.
So by your logic, Khadgar should have just ignored every single battle report he received on the Horde’s valor throughout The Burning Crusade, simply because he didn’t see it happen with his own eyes?
We know that he’s capable of doing so, which is why it’s plausible he could have.
Even without that, we also know that Khadgar has had a personal friendship with Garona, going all the way back to the events of The Last Guardian, during the First War. So he already has a basis on which to at least give orcs the benefit of the doubt, and not attack them outright.
And Turalyon should ignore everything Khadgar tells him about the Horde because he didn’t see it with his own eyes?
This…reads like a poor attempt at a comeback. I’m honestly not sure what you’re trying to say here.
Simply that if Turalyon were to listen to someone who would advocate for the Horde on Azeroth, it would be Khadgar above all others, and we know Khadgar’s position quite well. Turalyon has no reason not to give the Horde the benefit of the doubt, not to keep an open mind to what could be the best of the Horde, while Khadgar is praising all of the Horde’s accomplishments and changes since Turalyon’s absence.
Sure, that’s a fair statement to make.
The problem with this is, we never really got any interaction/conversation between the two of them, certainly not on this subject.
Which seems like an oversight on Blizzard’s part, considering their friendship—I don’t even recall the two of them talking much on the Vindicaar. If anything, it’s Vereesa and Alleria who discuss the current state of the factions.
I think the problem there is that there is only so much development time and resources. Blizzard should commit to putting out more short stories. They tend to go over pretty well, truth be told, and they help to bring the world alive.
If there had been a short story where Khadgar, Danath, Kudran, Turalyon, and Alleria had reunited and were sitting in Dalaran catching up on everything that happened, and we got to see each character’s reactions, thoughts, and so forth, I think it would’ve gone a long way towards improving the narrative.
Rather than rushing to Lordaeron or Gilneas, why not do something a bit closer to Stormwind?You know, like finally finding a way to cleanse Duskwood?Something that neither Varian nor Anduin have accomplished?I doubt it would happen but it would be interesting.From there it might bolster more support for his leadership if there are any doubts about him.
No value for faction conflict = Blizzard won’t do it
To be fair, I think it’d be rather interesting if, when we return from the Shadowlands we find that, during his tenure as Regent, Turalyon actually did manage to resolve a lot of Stormwind’s crisis problems. Westfall was cleansed and restored as the breadbasket of the kingdom, Redridge was secured with the Stonewatch Keep repaired and used as a training ground for new soldiers, the various towers all reclaimed and put back into service to use portals to transport soldiers and resources from one province to another, etc…
He’d still be AU Xe’ra’s light puppet and a raid boss we have to put down, but prior to that he demonstrated a strong focus on rebuilding the Alliance to great benefit for all involved.
I don’t suggest this to make him seem even more perfect. Rather, I suggest it so that there is a question about Anduin’s ability to lead. Even Varian had been unable to resolve so many issues during his reign, and a sentiment (spread by the House of Nobles) could be that Anduin was more interested in serving the Horde than his own kingdom. Something that could lead towards internal conflict.
Imagine Stormwind deciding to oust the regency and establish a democracy with the House of Nobles becoming a Senate.
One very simple awsner. No.
Long awsner.
No he isn’t and won’t come near Lordaeron City.
I agree with your post, those claims from some Void elven fans are insane. But the true rulers of Silvermoon should still be the Amani and their Loa. 
And see, this would actually make for an interesting Alliance-exclusive story, complete with political intrigue straight out of Final Fantasy XII.
Not to mention that after the debacle that was Dazar’alor, Anduin has pretty much demonstrated why monarchies often fail. Turns out competence and inheritance don’t always go hand-in-hand.
Sadly, this still requires Blizzard to write the Alliance as less than morally pure, so…
/shrug
We’ve had a good dose of it during BFA.
The Void Elves waged psychological warfare. They sent Horde diplomats into the Void to die via asphyxiation, thirst, starvation, or just whatever lurks in there. They attacked Gallywix’s Pleasure Palace and killed unarmed party-goers and wage slaves.
The Dark Iron Dwarves summoned Magma Golems to kill Goblins by the hundreds in painful fiery deaths, and intimidated the populace of Dazar’alor during the assault on the city.
Kul Tirans were literally using Horde captives as target practice.
How any of this is explained doesn’t change the fact it was downright evil. Justification does not mean moral superiority.
Would human fans even want that?
Like, I can get the logic of some people wanting the Stormwind monarchy removed from the story if it means ruining the High King stuff as a result, but as its own thing? Wouldn’t that conceptually be just as ick as getting rid of the warchief position?
I think it depends.
Will Stormwind actually be developed and shown to have it’s own culture by a plotline like this? Will it cease to be the most blatantly generic milquetoast human kingdom trope in all of tropedom?
I think people would be on board for that. Imagine political parties forming up. The name, ‘Defias Brotherhood,’ could actually resurface as a radical group seeking progressive changes to the republic of Stormwind.