She tried to remake him against his will. Only the Nether knows what kind of robot she would have made him into if she had succeeded. Nothing good ever comes out of anyone forcing “salvation” down someone else’s throat.
I consider the word “NO” to be my personal word of power against anyone who tries to force something upon me. It’s one of the only fundamental rights anyone has and she was not justified in trying to take his “NO” away.
I don’t have a beef with you. I don’t know you. It’s you who insist on making this personal. I do strongly disagree with certain views you express, but that’s not personal.
You’re an anti-vaxxer. Somehow I’m not surprised. No one has ever been forced a vaccine. Society however has full entitlement to protect itself against the consequences of your refusal to cooperate in containing a plague that killed a million of my fellow citizens and permanently maimed millions more.
Do they have to semi- and/or completely villainize Turalyon. I remember once being so excited to see him finally make an appearance in Legion.
That was almost seven years ago. At least let the next notable thing he does be something valiant, sure he’s steward or whatever right now, but it’s not like he hasn’t been that before! Sigh
Not my view; unsurprising you’d assume the worst about me without proof or lie.
You’re right. They don’t’ have to. And I don’t want to see that either.
Some of the old devs - some of them being the Cosby suite crew - no longer with the company wanted that. Thankfully, they’re not part of Blizzard anymore (especially thankful regarding the ones from the Cosby suite crew).
He hasn’t even done anything villainous despite what some say. Turalyon learns about Onyxia, Nefarian and Deathwing and orders… spies and mages to invent a way to see through dragon visages as a precaution. How dare he! sigh
It wouldn’t remove that. Turalyon was Lightforged by Xe’ra herself like Illidan would’ve been - Xe’ra even said the same words during Turalyon’s Lightforging, and he was same person afterward. He even challenged and disagreed with her about Alleria’s Void use.
We don’t know if forcing the process might have a different outcome, we have a lightforged nathrezin, and while the same also can challenge xe’ra’s view as seen in the Thousand years of war audiobook, We don’t know how he was before the transformation.
I am really interested to see what the circumstances of Lothraxion’s Lightforging - and his current loyalties - are. Denathrius’ forces claim they have a double agent among the forces of Light, but since Xe’ra could read minds and knew what Nathrezim are like as enemies, I don’t see Lothraxion being able to fool her if he’s not loyal.
If Lothraxion was Lightforged by force but still able to disagree with Xe’ra alongside Turalyon, that reinforces that Lightforging wouldn’t have taken Illidan’s free well. In fact, if Xe’ra could’ve used Lightforging to take people’s free will, she would’ve stopped Turalyon and Lothraxion from challenging her decision. Or she would’ve used that to Lightforge and control Alleria if she was as bad as certain critics claim.
Most of the writers of WoW haven’t been good at writing ancient characters (ancient as in over 1,000 years old). While it may change soon, it’s been that way for years.
That’s a false flag issue. Anyone who served would know that as a soldier YOU are required to get a series of vaccines not just Covid. Are you also going to complain about the required uniforms as well?
So far, the only people who have are the ones on this forum. There is absolutely nothing in the short story that implies that he went extracurricular with Liadrin. As an Alliance soldier he had only a one day pass into the city as well. That’s mentioned in the short story as well. It’s also implied that he went there with his son and both had dropped by to see Arator’s old nanny as well.
Having a ton of your personal rights curtailed is what you sign up for when you put on the uniform. Soldiers may be deployed anywhere on the planet… so that means part of enlisting is submitting to a whole labroom full of vaccinations… there’s no reason to call out Covid, unless you’re part of the general Anti-Vaxxer Nut Brigade, in which case there’s no room for you in the armed forces.
And in no way in hell woud I ever sign up voluntarily for the Light Brigade… I’ve read too much history about Crimea.
Yeah. Remember when more people complained about Xe’ra imprisoning Alleria for Void use? How dare Xe’ra checks notes make and enforce rules about what is or isn’t allowed on her own ship.
She only got so much flak from fans either because they’re Illidan fanboys/fangirls or projecting something/someone onto her (just like the guy who wrote that story arc was).
Do you have any standards that aren’t double standards? Did you read the post WW2 history of Poland?
It was kind of a pun since Crimea includes the fabled “Charge of the Light Brigade”.
Doesn’t change the fact that Alleria is a bonafide hero. When your Army of the Light is being chewed by the Legion the way a dog does a bone, maybe because of your past bad decisions, maybe you should be wise enough to recognise help when you get it.
Let me get this straight: So Xe’ra could never have tried to force the Light on Illidan, right? On that, we agree.
But does that mean that, in your opinion, only Illidan can enslave others? Because if you remember correctly, Illidan enslaved HUNDREDS of draenei and orcs during TBC. He FORCED energy fell upon orcs, turning them red to serve his cause. Isn’t this the SAME thing Xe’ra tried to do? Even worse, because as far as we know, the Forge the Light process does not take away the free will of the person as a whole. Illidan, on the other hand, enslaved hundreds through vile magic and old, well-known traditional slavery, killing and torturing those who did not obey him.
I’ll say it again, Illidan is the most hypocritical character in this game. And Blizzard giving him a leading role, justifying all these horrendous actions, only made me angrier at how hypocritical he is. He is not a peace fighter, or someone who fights for individual rights.
And we killed him for that, remember? Than his corpse was stolen by Gul’dan and the only way to stop his plans was to bring him back to life, and so we employed him as a weapon against the Legion which was a more pressing concern than reviewing his past crimes at the time. Further debate on this issue became moot when Illidan was sealed with Sargeras and the Pantheon.
X’era’s methods are inexcusable no matter who they are employed against. “No” is still “No”.