Is this xpac gonna be shadowlands all over again?

Yeah, I think my pot may be boiling over again. I don’t like where Blizzard’s priorities seem to lie now and my patience has pretty much run out. I won’t even stay subbed this time like I did when I skipped buying SL because Blizzard’s ensured that I won’t have anything to do by making legacy content harder with the prepatch. :dracthyr_lulmao:

The one obstacle I have to overcome to skip TWW will be having to tell my friend group that I won’t be able to run M+ with them. :pensive:

heheh this reminds me of that movie grandma’s boy, when they were talking about changing the colors of elves on one level to make it seem like a new mob lol

Yupp… and there are people, who defend stuff like copy&paste races as a “new expansion feature”. :sweat_smile:

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I get some of your gripes but this one is straight up false.

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just watched this a couple days ago

Dark Iron Dwarves there was hype.

The new Dwarves? Silence

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It’s amazing how a company can require a monthly subscription plus pay for each garbage expansion and completely remove the fun factor from it. Seriously who is in charge? “cough Ian Cough”

I would say if this was a corporation they would have fired all the devs by now but then I realized that it is a corporation and they just unionized all the lame brain devs so now they can’t fire them regardless. There is 0 reason for them to listen to the players “cough customers cough” as it doesn’t matter if it fails. No one will be held responsible. Not like anyone ever has been. Not since Activision took over anyway.

I mean, it took them a year to fix the Revendreth elevator chains. That bug screamed “amateur hour” and I wouldn’t call a game polished when very obvious-to-everyone bugs, such as those, are left in the game.

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I call it the BlizZard rug pull but others call it the Monky Paw.

They earned some good will with Dragonflight expansion but they are now going backwards and making things more grindy, less rewarding and wasting more time. A big step backwards from Dragonflight.

They lost a lot of subs due to systemlands and with DF they stabilized. But now they have the gall to go back to old habits of the rental system era where player time is not respected again.

Old habits they can not shake all because of ego.

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I never said SL was fully bug free and polished, only that those weren’t the main problem that drove people away.

If it doesn’t start off with exposition Jiana and 3 or 4 days of on rails questing to get to the game and explore the systems, then it should be ok.

But if they capture that shadowlands leveling experience that could be a problem.

In terms of end game, shadowlands cranked it up to 11, dragonflight turned the knobs to 12, if TWW turns it 13 instead of back to 10, that could also be a problem.

Oh please. A solo que version of ranked BGs is not a new mode.

Systemland suffered from rental system fatigue.

And bad story.

And one major patch every 12 months.

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What would you consider a “new mode?” A new bg? Because there’s one of those coming as well.

Yeah dragonflight only had enough content for 1 day a week.
I had no real issues with the content, just how little this expansion had to offer.

Im hopeful for tww but if i have nothing to do 6 days a week again… im not sure im going to keep playing wow.

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We don’t know enough about it to say it won’t also have problematic systems and bad game design included with the bugs and rough finish.

shhhhh don’t use common cents don’t you know some of the people here don’t have enough to give change back if you gave them a penny for their thoughts

Those systems and that game design received overwhelming negative feedback during the SL beta, but Blizzard in their arrogance acted as if they knew better and they ignored the feedback.

Blizzard stuck to their guns, the game went live with those systems and that game design and the playerbase dropped immediately and significantly.

Blizzard is doing it again now in TWW beta. Ignoring the player testers feedback and if the expansion goes live like this, once again their playerbase is going drop immediately and significantly.

This company likes to act like they’ve changed since “don’t you people have phones?!?” But they haven’t.

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lol all SL did was prove that they could actualy make an expansion worse then BfA.

SL was them going hold my beer challenge accepted after players going " They can’t do any worse then BfA"

That is a big problem I am seeing with TWW beta. They can turn some many things into easy wins and focus on fixing the harder stuff. But ail cascades and builds up to the point is is overwhelming them as patch hits live client.

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