Is this cheating?

So I am on a relatively low population server and a friend of mine has pointed out that there are clusters of people from a certain guild pvping in odd areas of the map at very late hours.

From what we’ve gathered so far it seems there are 2 guilds (one on each faction) taking turns killing each other for honor. Now I and numerous others have found these guilds in the midst of their “duels” and they claim that they had camped the group of horde and were in turn getting camped themselves.

But, the parts of the story that don’t make sense are where they were on the map (in north of terrordale next to Strat) which is very hard to get to and perfect for coordinated honor farming and how they were fighting which did not match up in any way to how ppl respond to getting camped. Also it seems that the two guilds chase each other around the world allowing each side to kill the other in different zones (in secluded areas) while giving the appearance of world pvp.

The whole reason I started this article was to see if any of this coordinated honor sharing is against the rules and is it worth the time to gather info on these people and report them? I mean it seems they are taking advantage of a low pop server to farm honor in a dishonest way to gain rank13/14 more easily. Am I wrong here?

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I believe honor trading is against the rules, yes

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You did not think about asking for an invite?

Definitely something that is against the revised TOS.

Definitely 100% frowned upon…

Run up there and get killed. Run back as a ghost and sit there and report all of them.

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Sounds like pvp was happening. Or was it ganking?

Either way you should have told world defence channel so that everyone could come and farm some honor.

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He thinks there is cross faction collusion to boost player rank which is against the TOS.

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If 1 player is nominated to kill 40 enemies then that is a significant boost.

But if 40 vs 40 it might as well be 1v1

Not if everyone is solo and rotating kills.

You can get probably 12k honor a day off single killing 40 people depending on your rank and theirs.

Or they could be RP battling, but i’m suspicious.

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It depends how they are conducting the fights, there is nothing wrong with having pre planed organized PVP its only against TOS or “honor trading” if they are simply allowing themselves to be killed back and forth

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You should definitely ask to speak with their manager.

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It 100% is not just pvp happening in weird areas. It is win trading. I have heard that the people doing this have double the honor of the most active pvpers on our server.

They have been reported. It’s up to blizz to follow up on it now. You should definitely report them every time you see them doing it.

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Will do thanks for the advice all of you. I think the hardest part of solving this is finding out whether or not they are participating in a coordinated honor farm for BOTH factions or not because if it is advantageous to just 1 faction that is just camping.

This. Not sure how you prove it but I guess Blizzard could by checking the chat logs. However, if its arranged somewhere like a Discord channel, that would be more difficult.

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I just saw someone on one of my servers advertising for more people to join honor trading at a certain location. This appears to be specifically against the game’s Code of Conduct.

If you form a group and share that information with someone on the opposite faction purely to engage in world pvp then that would not be an issue. However, if you form a group and simply stand there and allow your toon to be killed on a turn-based rotation of doing that, I cannot see how that wouldn’t be against the rules.

Blizzard’s Code of Conduct:

says:

You are responsible for how you and your account are represented in the game world. Cheating in any fashion will result in immediate action. Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, exploiting bugs, or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating.

Exploiting other players is an equally serious offense. Scamming, account sharing, win-trading, and anything else that may degrade the gaming experience for other players will receive harsh penalties.

I don’t hesitate to report cheaters.

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Its hard to prove this I would think. I wouldn’t expect bliz to do anything in this situation.

On the contrary, its very easy for them to prove it. They have access to all the game’s chat logs. If someone reports an incident, all they have to do is go back and read the chat logs at or around the time stamp. That at least proves someone was seeking to do it. Then they can track the player’s actions after that. If they follow up on it, its a bingo situation.

I was just wondering, instinctively it looks and feels like cheating.

Last night I saw in LFG channel somebody was looking for a low level dungeon run though exchange: you run my lowbie, I run yours…

Is that cheating as well?

That one would be up to Blizzard to decide. Its borderline - you aren’t gaining an advantage over your own faction because someone with a Horde toon is running your Horde toon through an instance while are doing the same for them. Its possibly against the spirit of faction divisions but it would be a fairly minor thing I’d say.

Carrying ppl in dungeons is perfectly fine.