i don’t mind grinding rep, to a point LOL, but WoW , LOL, the Now 5 main reps, 9 sub reps wit the spiders and the cartels, ( Darkfuse being the grindiest of the cartels, which seem a lot worse then the spider reps) and then another coming in 11.1.5 for the arthy, plus the raid one , and for the cartels doesn’t seem alts help any, on that, feels like i have bee working on steamweedies rep for weeks now, ohh wait i have LOL,
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can be helped with the weekly 1k rep points from the dungeon quest giver
Thats old rep, its alot when you just starting out, cuz yea you gota catch up… but if you play the patches theres not that much grind
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I don’t farm rep. I let it come naturally just by doing things I’d be doing anyway.
The Cartels are basically just Azj-Kahet style all over again. But I’ve barely gone down there and somehow I’m already like Renown 8 without doing anything. Probably the random Delve rep.
I feel like the only grindy one is Darkfuse.
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Personally think they should remove renown and rep or remove the time gating with them. At least in Classic you could get max rep in a day if you wanted. Time gating always will suck.
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Renown is time gated?
yes and kind of
yes on the first 2-3k points
kind of on the dailies wq and the blue quest
The rep for Darkfuse is easier than the rest of the cartels, purely because it’s not gated: You will, eventually, get enough research.
You can’t speed up any of the other ones. They’re purely weekly.
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I’m not sure I understand what you mean by the first 2-3k points?
I guess I just have so much I could run all week, I’ve never run into a gate.
the dungeon quest from the main city and one of the new zone quest both give 1k points
Azj Kahet had a lot of spillover between the three factions. The Cartels do not. And the hidden darkfuse solutions cartel is especially degenerate.
But 0 player power is hidden behind the individual cartels so it’s kind of a no harm no foul. The main rep is as easy as any other Khaz Algar faction and that’s where actual gameplay rewards are.
There’s also a raid rep that I keep forgetting about. Not sure what they’re offering. Figure I’ll find out on two expansions when I’m grinding out Gallywix for that mount.
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Ok.
Deleting those weekly quests seems excessive though.
If a few weekly quests are what makes the renowns timegated, that feels like the only rational response.
i know but it was from the backlash from players saying i hate just logging in every day to do WQ
And then we get renown from Delves, too. I don’t think that’s gated? But it seems random.
I dunno. I never hit a day where I don’t have something giving me renown. But I don’t chase it. I just play and I get renown.
Rep has been easy this xpac I feel.
I still have cartel stuff to do but everything else is maxed and I don’t farm rep.
IMO the problem is not how may reps there are but how long it takes to grind it.
Sure Warbands make playing alts and reps easy but we receive just crap rep for whatever task ee do…
IMHO if you finish the storyline you should be, at least, honored with the faction from the storyline, but now the rep is not even from old rep system, its a random soulless number that some dev pull out of hell.
Its not a hamster wheel anymore, its a hamstee wheel on steroids.
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There’s too much for me in Undermine, but some people like grinding a lot more than I do. 
Rep goes super fast these days. I remember back in like SL, doing every single wq and such trying to squeeze every drop of rep you could with a contract active lol.
Now you can just do whatever and they throw rep at you.
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one trick with the 4 cartels is the chett list turn-in for 500rep
can do that on every alt, unlike the other weeklies which are 1x per account
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I want the black trench coat bad enough I will happily do this grind.