Is there something I don't know about the Mount achievements?

I have 243 total mounts in my collection, but I am 195/200 in my mount achievement.

I keep reading alts can mess this number up, but the only alt I have earned any mounts on is a death knight, that never maxed level. All of my mounts have been earned on this character. Even taking out the few that are zone specific, I should still have at least 200 mounts.

All the other race mounts I have were still earned by this one character through reputation. I have the leather working mounts but, those are still only 2 mounts.

Any other mounts that don’t count towards the achievement? I can’t imagine I have that many extra that don’t count…

The least understood fact about these achievements is that the score ia based on the number of mounts that are usable by any one character.

Any particular character will not be able use every mount in the player’s collection for a variety of reasons. Wrong faction, wrong class, too low of level, etc.

For instance, pretend that your account has 100 overall mounts, but exactly 50 are Alliance-only and 50 are Horde-only. Any character will only have 50 mounts available for the achievement. No character will be capable of using all mounts because faction is mutually exclusive, and the achievement is based on mounts that a particular character can use.

Yes, I may be confused again, so please forgive me, but

I am saying I don’t have any alliance or any other alts for that matter, so all of the mounts (aside from the death knight one) and the ones that are zone specific, are ones that were farmed by this one horde character…

so unless you mean the faction specific mounts don’t count at all, then all of my mounts are usuable by this character (except for the zone specific ones, which would still work for this character-- but only for those zones).

I made a death knight when they first came out, and the mount was automatic for it. But that is the only alt that has a mount that my main character can’t use… That would make 243. I think with zone specific mounts I might be down 5 more mounts… but… Are they not counting colors? I just feel like the number has to be off somehow, and I’m just trying to learn which ones I shouldn’t be aiming for. (my mount collection total is at 244 now)

so are there any other ones that don’t count?

Again, if I am misreading, please correct me.

Every racial mount I have on this character wasn’t made from alts but was farmed through reputation. The profession mounts I have are 2. but considering the achievement is for 195/200 and I’m at 244 now, I’m just trying to figure out which mounts don’t count.

Maybe as you are saying, all of the horde only ones don’t count? or like only the Account ones and not character bound? Because the mount list would probably be lower on an alt, but I haven’t checked since… I don’t really have one.

Your 243 include at least a few (at a quick glance) Alliance-only ones. Those will never count, for the achievement, on any Horde character.

I didn’t bother to count the number of obvious disqualified mounts, but that’s at least part of the reason. The achievement is counted separately on each character and only the mounts that character can use counts. The total collected count will always be higher, because not every character in an account’s collection will be usable by any particular character.

Can you have alliance only mounts if you’ve never played alliance as a horde character?

This is really my only character.

The DK I have had a mount automatically from creation. but the other characters never leveled high enough for mounts.

Yes. Several years back they started awarding the opposite faction side equivalent when you would acquire a base faction side mount.

So a Wyvern would give you a Gryphon as well.

You have mistsabers and mountain horses. I don’t know how, but your account has some obvious Alliance-only mounts.

They’re part of the 243, but they’ll never be part of the achievement for any Horde character.

(ETA: Kyzera’s info probably explains it.)

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This explains a lot then. Thank you! I kept reading character only, but it didn’t help explain for me since I really only have one character.

@sniperorc
yeah they don’t show up in my character mount log so I’m not sure where you’re seeing that. I do have a few horses and sabers but they are the reputation farms. Ex: night borne mana saber/ runsaber (store promo) – argent warhorse (argent crusades coins).

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They show on your Armory page:

Your Armory collections tab. It only took a little scrolling around to find a page with Alliance mounts.

I use a hundred addons, so I don’t know if this is stock or not, but in my in-game mount collection view, I can see opposite-faction mounts (which are shaded red) alongside all different kinds of mounts I can’t use on that particular character: wrong class, wrong area (water mounts on land, for instance), etc.

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Yeah definitely has to be your answer. I’ve never had those alliance mounts nor can use them on any alts. I never leveled alliance. (not high enough at least). Thank you so much for your help! Also didn’t know how to access armory so that’s great too.

Thank you @Sniperorc too.

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