I’ve seen people on these forums mentioning a possible 7th cosmic force outside of the six already established ones (Life, Death, Void, Fel, Arcane, Light), and THAT force is the true worst one (ugh) than the Void itself (which makes no damn sense cause the Void just wants to destroy everything).
Is that rooted in anything or just speculation?
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Everliving_Statuette
The six forces that pointed toward a seventh, and yet denied it. For a long while I considered this seeming contradiction no more than another variable. An unknown waiting to be solved.
But the song of the oracle continued to reverberate in my consciousness. And as I allowed my focus to soften, my grip upon the tangible to loosen, the geometry took shape in my mind.
It was both six AND seven. The six were one, and the seventh the other.
Did they desire union? The song seemed to say otherwise. Both were, yet only one could be.
The melody shifted. I shuddered at the shape it took.
This was not a variable to be solved. It was a solution awaiting its opportunity.
So far it’s just speculation.
I’m so, so weary of the retcons and “there must always be a bigger baddie”.
Why couldn’t the Void just be the big baddie of the universe? What was wrong with that??
Their goal is to literally consume all existence, what could be WORSE than that???
Telemarketers.
Whoa whoa whoa… the void is just misunderstood.
Disorder wants to consume all so the Void won’t.
Void wants to consume all so the Light won’t.
Light wants to force all to serve so Death won’t.
Death wants to force all to serve so this giant mega big bad eyeless snake won’t consume it all.
*One small correction:
Disorder doesn’t want to consume all so the Void won’t. The Burning Legion wanted to consume all so the Void couldn’t. However, Sargeras was a (fallen) pantheon of Order, and not a pantheon of Disorder. Sure - he used Fel to his advantage and gathered up some pretty bad demons, but everything in SL would indicate that Zovaal manipulated Sargeras to utilize Disorder. Otherwise, Sargeras is not the manifestation of a big bad Disorder pantheon.
there is the Everliving Statuette as well, one of its lines is The seventh covets what the six hold fast. The fulcrum wavers. All will be undone. — That likely being Reality / the Mortal Plane.
They are setting up likely an evil First One who didnt agree with the others that the cosmos should be forced into an artificial balance, got defeated, then tossed outside creation.
Because the void is just the counter balance to the light a true big bad would be the counterbalance to all of the cosmological forces combined. Probably why zovaal said that a cosmos divided couldn’t hope to stand against it. Because to balance the scales we’d need to fight as one. And I’m tired of people claiming everything is retcons it’s not it’s just deepening of the lore just because you think you knew who the big bad was because someone did something bad doesn’t mean you were right or knew the whole story. A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.
“The six forces that pointed toward a seventh, and yet denied it. For a long while I considered this seeming contradiction no more than another variable. An unknown waiting to be solved.”
The six cosmic agencies consider themselves eternal and perpetual. Itself a denial that there may be an ultimate end to them. The seventh force could in some way be a form of “essence” of finality. The end. The terminal point of reality. The fundamental “stop” from which there is no afterward, no continuation. A singularity of apocalyptic conclusion to existence. Universal Armageddon to all things.
“This was not a variable to be solved. It was a solution awaiting its opportunity.”
A solution awaiting its opportunity. As if a thing inevitable to which all else progresses. An approaching “something” that approaches as an effect of existence moving forward. A resolution to existence patiently anticipating the march toward itself.
Firim even ponders later whether the First Ones’ design is intended to continue forever. That it may be meant to have an end. What if this seventh force is the impending and perhaps ultimately inevitable encroachment of that end?
I can see that kinda. The void is not true nothingness, it is actually everything at once. It is still a type of somethingness. What is outside of the cosmos might be literally nothingness. Non-Being.
Who told you about the Team End Times headquarters?
Uh, I mean, uh… crap!
Shadow is everything at once: True Void is Nothingness. Oblivion.
Shadows are indistinct. True Darkness is Nothing at all!
I wonder if it’s entropy as a concept. This might be their final big bad. The biggest bad. This will eventually put an end to Warcraft and when that day comes they’ll reboot the Warcraft IP.
… But it’s probably just super void or something.
Even the Void being the big bad was a retcon via Chronicle, for years people assumed the final big bads were going to be the Titans themselves, and honestly I think that was the original ‘plan’, however loose it was.
Before 2015, ‘Void’ wasn’t even a thing really, there was Shadow, and Light, and they were just magical forces like any other, if more primal ones. But because apparently a living god so powerful that him even setting foot on Azeroth would mean the end wasn’t good enough for the power creep.
So I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a new retcon now to make an even BIGGER bad.
It does seem like retcons have been made a number of times to make a new top threat. First was Sargeras, then the Void Lords, next the six cosmic forces, now the seventh.
If we get the reveal that the Cosmic Force the Void Lords are aligned to AKA Shadow is not the Void and Darkness is the True Void then the only things left to explore after the Cosmic Forces are the Elements proper, Madness, Sanity, Day & Night, Space & Time, Sound, the Seven Deadly Sins & Seven Saintly Virtues and finally Good & Evil as their own Forces!
As for what are the Elements: Fire, Water, Ice, Earth, Air, Lightning, Spirit and Decay I would assume.
Not quite. As far back as TBC in 2007 with Consortium/Protectorate quests in Netherstorm, the Void was being treated as a distinct place from whence entities like Dimensius and other voidspawn originated before invading the physical universe and Twisting Nether.
I’m going to assume it is us mortals. After all we broke the Shadow Lands. There are a lot of “beings” in the inbetween spaces of realms. Take a look at those Devourers from the in between! I don’t think it is the Void as it does not make sense to be the top enemy, as we will need to unite the cosmos at some point. I do think the Light and Void will have their epic battle though.
7th Force is a meta representation of the Danuser-verse being dreamed in real time and constantly changing to subvert expectations, clearly.
Light, Void, Life, Death, Order, and Chaos will be replaced by Doritos, Frisbee-Golf, Depression, Anxiety, Diarrhea, and Sylvanas Posters.