Is there an actual date yet

idk if anyone has said, but you can make ademon hunter at 98 and level that one up to be the reputation hunter you;re wanting for Zandalari

What are the requirements for the new races? Getting the appropriate reputation to exalted and completing its quest line for the achievement?

Maybe youā€™ll find your answer in this thread, which has been stickied for over a month now.

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Thanks Saralocks. Just wanting to carry on the conversation - I knew it was something like that though. I appreciate you. /moo :cow:

How about you let us have flying as well, itā€™s pretty pointless making us wait so long for it.

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Thanks for the feedback - I have considered that but I already have a max level demon hunter on Proudmoore, and you only get one per server. So I could make a demon hunter on another server but that would be a waste because after grinding the rep the DH would not serve any further purpose. Iā€™d sooner level my level 82 DK or level 86 priest still on the Earthen Ring server if I go that route. But I would still be left with a max level character on a dead server. I could transfer one of them, but in totality thatā€™s really not much better than doing another faction transfer on Proudmoore. If I want to do it right away, faction transfer is the only way that makes sense.

Thing is I have no compelling reason to do it right away other than I love the Zandalari druid forms. So Iā€™ll stick to the process of leveling my allied races for the heritage armor, continue to max level with at least one them on horde side, grind Zandalari rep to exalted from scratch, do the quest requirements, and it will be done. Honestly I donā€™t think Iā€™ll even manage to finish it during this expansion it will probably go into the next one.

Edit: and now I just found out about The Pride of Kul Tiras achievement, on top of every thing else, that you need to unlock Kul Tirans. Apparently this achievement is some sort of secret because it took serious googling to find out what you need to do. Itā€™s a 23 step quest chain that requires, among other things, getting items from at least 4 different dungeons. So Iā€™m nowhere near getting that done either.

Frankly Iā€™m pulling the plug on this whole endeavor. You can have these allied races. I wonā€™t be doing it this expansion.

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Bornakk,

Since there seems to be recent and repeated blue attention to this thread, can I please direct your attention to the In Development section of the forums that has had no Blizzard interaction where the #1 question is regarding class tuning? Are there any plans in the works for class balance/tuning specifically that involves addressing Guardian Druid performance, m+ utility, damage output and representation for 8.1.5? Its a shame the art team did so well in making 2 new allied race guardian druid skins given the state of the spec.

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Last time I checked, an expansion lasts around 2 years.
So as long as itā€™s released within that 2 year period, it still counts as an expansion feature.

Youā€™re wrong. Itā€™s because Zandalari have been mostly complete for over a year and were supposed to come out with the Dark Iron Dwarfs who have a lot of customizations.

Theyā€™re going a little off their original playbook now, but new customizations were just added to the PTR.

Iā€™m so tired of people claiming horde bias about everythingā€¦

Soā€¦Iā€™m wrong and they didnā€™t wait until after the ZTrolls were already complete to start the Kul Tiran development process becauseā€¦

???

Did you even read what you wrote? Theyā€™re crunching to finish the Kul Tiransā€¦because they didnā€™t start them until recently, only to find out their normal humanoid rig didnā€™t work with the models. Thatā€™s something you find out early in a development cycle.

KT were left down to the wire, just like everything else they do for the alliance.

Horde story gets done first. Horde races get done first. Horde instances get done first. Horde cities get done first. Kul Tirans were left for last just like the Alliance side of the Uldir story was.

Hint: We didnā€™t have any Uldir story. We were tourists. Our whole motivation was ā€œthis looks bad. Better kill everything.ā€ (Iā€™m serious)

Part of the reason Boralis isnā€™t a spread out mess like the Horde main city, is because the left Boralis for last and just tossed everything down together in one place because they had to get it done quickly. We learned this at Blizzcon, FYI. Iā€™m not being that hyperbolic. itā€™s literally why Boralis is so much better designed than the horde main city. Spreading things out is more difficult than squishing them together because you get more empty space that needs to be filled somehow.

Dazarā€™alor is alive compared to Boralis. Children are running around, there are scavengers, thugs, and NPCs say things pertinent to the story.

Boralis has a noisy enchanting trainer and a shoe shiner. Everyone else is rather static by comparison because no care was taken when the city was built. Not to the same extent it was taken with Dazarā€™alor.

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This is very true and sad at the same time. Coming from a expansion where Guardian Druids were king in raids and in M+. Only to have them cut down like the KT tree looking forms we are gettingā€¦ Let alone feral is still in a very suspect spot. Only druids that seem to be doing well are the ones that cast. ( I miss my druid tank/feral) i

They didnā€™t announce Kul Tirans or Magā€™har till after Blizzcon.

Originally Dark Iron Dwarfs and Zandalari were suppose to be the races @ launch, but it got changed. Thatā€™s the reason the customizations donā€™t ā€œmatch upā€.

This is the question you were answering as wellā€¦

You mostly just want to rant about how unfair it is to play Alliance thoughā€¦ I get it.

All of the races together when you look at the big picture have equal customizations. Theyā€™re probably going to add more to these last two thoughā€¦ just to get $ for race changes and keep what little hype there is for them still going.

Iā€™ll agree that they didnā€™t do things developmentally correct, but Magā€™har were only completed early because they were keeping Zandalari on the shelf to come out with Kul Tirans. Everyone waited.

To be completely honest, I couldnā€™t care less about the customizations.

Itā€™s still the racials Iā€™m concerned about.

Regeneratinā€™ seems to be very, very strong, and then they get the ā€˜choose your own loa-powerā€™ passive on top of it.

Meanwhile, KT Haymaker got gutted for PvP and is strictly and grossly inferior to war stomp because they removed the knockback in the one place it could actually be useful.

And we now know that Regeneratinā€™ is going live in itā€™s 100% heal state. Even nerfed to 6 seconds, itā€™s more powerful than most class abilities on a CD thatā€™s way too short for what itā€™s capable of.

ā€¦itā€™s going to break PvE. Itā€™s going to break it in some hilarious waysā€¦unless youā€™re Alliance, in which case itā€™s just more of the same.

Weā€™re going to have to wait to see how things actually work out, but my money is on ZTrolls being busted.

ā€¦and on top of that, KT Humans were crunched in at the last minute. If ZTrolls were finished a year ago to be released alongside DIDs it means that both of the horde allied races were completed before they even started the DIDs since the Magā€™har orcs were released with the DIDs and the KTs are still being finished about a week before theyā€™re supposed to go live.

I donā€™t care how you spin it. Alliance content gets finished last, and it always ends up getting rushed in the end.

Every. Single. Time.

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Once againā€¦

You replied to this.

If you could careless about customizations try not replying to people about them with mis-information while pushing your Alliance pitty party agenda.