It probably doesn’t look that big when looking at it from a web page on a PC… But I’m at work looking at the forums on my phone. My phone has a much smaller screen and the text is formatted differently, so it actually ends up being much longer than it really is.
All that aside however, your post was very well thought out, constructive, and had lots of good advice. I did enjoy reading it. My goal was not to offend but to be humorous
Don’t apologise, your post was thoughtful.
I’ve been playing off and on since Vanilla too.
When I first started I went 100% against the advice of my IRL friend that I was playing with and was very bullheaded about the game because I like to figure things out for myself rather than listening to others. I expect that there’s a lot of players that are coming from retail or are 100% new to Classic with this mindset.
The biggest issue I have are the players that know they’re making mistakes or “doing it wrong” and they just don’t care. IRL i’m pretty taciturn and A-social and I expect that comes through into the game as well. My use of the word “idiot” came from frustration more than any real animosity.
I’ve always been the kind of player(in any game) to bend over backwards to help people, hell, I didn’t even get my mount until 48 because I give so many greens to random people because I inspect them and see they have a worse piece for that slot.
I think my most favourite moment in Classic so far was when I ran into a new player(a rogue) in UC who was asking in trade for someone to make him some weapons because he only had 1 white starter dagger. I happened to have most of the mats in my bank and I bought the rest because he was only level 10.
I made him 4 daggers(even though I know swords/maces are better for rogue leveling) so that he’d have upgrades at level 15, dude was so happy that I helped him out. I told him that combat was better for leveling, and that if he wanted help later I could run him through some instances for quests/gear.
He still messages me once in a while and asks me questions about things regarding his class, or thanks me for the help I gave him 20 levels earlier.
That is what classic is about to me more than running instances.
Yep, last run I had going smoothly, just chugging through the dungeon, no deaths, no downtime. The mage got cocky, started pulling, things were getting dicey, and finally he pulls when the healer is out of mana. So I just let him tank it. Dude goes down like a sack of potatoes. We all have a good laugh at him and he learned his lesson, let me finish pulling the dungeon.
I may have overstated the problem due to frustration.
thanks. Yeah I just reread what I responded with, and it did not come across the way I intended it to…wasnt meant to be snarky, but funny.
I tend to hear ‘wall of text’ a lot when I write, should of seen my earlier facebook rant on something I posted tonight lol, it was easily twice that long, to where I had to break it up into the post and a comment to fit lol.
Or to put it another way, I once had a friend tell me i needed to take the “Reader’s Digest School of Condensed Writing” and I told him, I did, they flunked me.
Either way, I imagine people reading what I write, with my southern drawl, and I’m good lol.
Thanks however for reading it! And your comments 
they are appreciated!!
I just avoid PuGging/Dungeoning, in general 
I find Classic less annoying and frustrating by avoiding the PuGging/Dungeoning scene. There’s plenty of Questing/Exploration/Professions/Grinding/etc. to do. I just love doing a lot of the Solo content, anyway.
I suggest trying to find a Guild that’ll respect your PuGging/Dungeoning needs. Relying on complete strangers, who owe nothing to you, doesn’t seem to benefit well, for me
I didn’t even realize that Facebook actually had a character limit on posts because I have never hit said limit. The fact that you have actually hit that limit and I haven’t says a lot.
My job requires me to make daily reports at the end of my shift at 6 a.m. and there have been more than a few occasions where I have had to post twice just to be able to fit it all into the group chat messaging app that we use.
I’ve had my fair share of lengthy posts in these forums as well, but I tip my hat to you since I have yet to ever run out of room on Facebook 
Well, it seems you have calmed down considerably since posting the first post in this thread :), glad to see that!
It does get frustrating, from both ends, I know it does as a dps and after all I read on tanks, I’m without a doubt it does for ya’all as well… Never tanked, have no desire to.
I do often think about joining a dungeon run, but honestly, not sure I will, more out of worrying what kind of group i’ll end up in. If it’s another group like my original first dungeon group, I may never set foot in the game again.
Where I was 45 then, I’m 60 now, and way beyond that kind of bs. I’d be banned for life when I got done saying what I felt now lol.
You did remind me however, of one of my favorite past times in vanilla, that of inspecting players and making gear for them.
I loved crafting most, which is probably why retail will never see me again to be honest. I used to randomly send people upgrades for several levels in the mail, for no other reason than I could make them, and they could use them.
But my favorite part, was when I’d inspect someone, and they would be wearing something I crafted and posted on the AH! That was always awesome, and when I did find a person wearing something I had made, I made them a FULL SET of gear for the next big level change. Loved that part of the game, and it’s something I look forward to doing again, once I get settled in on a server. My bf and I are starting over on a different server than the one we started on, just not happy with that one, but loving the new one.
Warn them once. Explain your reason for this warning, and the reason for your rule. You can keep it short. If they fail to listen, go DPS mode and let em tank for you. Unless they are wildly overgeared, or you have a War/Druid that can but refuses to tank that takes over, they’ll die. You may even wipe. But they will learn.
And if those kinds of players blacklist you, will it matter? Their playstyle doesn’t mesh with yours and tanks are so rare it’s tear-inducing.
LOL I’ve run out of room on just about every platform I’ve ever posted on lol.
Takes a special kind of writer to do that lol. People who know me tell me I need to write a book about my life, its been interesting, they love hearing my stories, but I keep telling them it would have to be a series, like one decade per book, maybe five years…or no one would be able to pick up the book, would be too heavy.
sigh.
if only there really was a Reader’s digest school of condensed writing. ;D
I’m 39 and tired of people’s crap and sometimes it makes me mildly irritated.
tanking and healing are pretty much the only roles I’ve ever enjoyed in WoW.
DPSing is mindless.
Just find a guild.
I think I’m done with PuGs.
That’s kinda the same boat I’m in as I said before.
I have a job and I enjoy my leisure time, I don’t need random people on the internet making me frustrated due to their lack of understanding/unwillingness to learn.
I was VERY upset when they removed profession specialisations in WoTLK.
Armoursmithing was my thing from Vanilla to Wrath, just like it’s my thing now.
If each and every volume in the series was about the same bulk as say…War and Peace then yeah I could imagine how difficult it would be to be able to tote around trying to read on the go.
I guess that would have to depend on how old you are though too. You have already mentioned that you’re a mother, so I’m fairly certain you’re not a millennial, or if you are, you are at the upper age limit for that generation.
That being said, I’m not about to ask your age as that’s typically considered rude or offensive. I may not be originally from the south, but I know enough not to upset a woman who is lol.
This “Yankee” is no fool 
The ones who leave once they get their loot should be blacklisted, unless ofcourse they state what bosses they will kill before hand
LOL, I’m 60, and already beat you to the asking as I said it in a previous reply lol.
“Age is a matter of the mind, if you don’t mind, it doesn’t matter.” Unknown author
My kids are millennial’s, two at the top edge, one at the bottom edge of the spectrum.
I am actually a D*mn Yankee. I found out years ago there is a difference, between that and a Yankee. One comes south for a visit and goes home, the other stays. I’m sure you can figure out which is which lol.
Grew up in Michigan, been in Virginia ever since pretty much.
Talk about derailing a topic LOL
Well I guess that makes me one too then.
I grew up in South Dakota and my wife and I moved to Oklahoma in late March 2 years ago.
I’m 42 btw 
Edit: In your previous post when you said you were 60…I honestly thought you were talking about character level lol. I know your avatar isn’t 60 yet but for all I knew you could have alts.
People still don’t get this is a teamwork thing. They play through like it’s retail, run in a group, the run ends they all leave.
The problem with this is that they never think it’s their fault they think it’s the tank’s fault. People never learn.
I bet op is the kind of tank that marks every pull and makes a dungeon take twice as long. This is 2019 and we don’t need marks or cc any more. Every dps with half a brain knows the kill order.
You are making the game more tedious than it needs to be.
Saying 2 out of 3 DPS are bad says a lot here
Your retail slip is showing…why do you need to speed run everything?