Looking for a resource that’s tracking the population data for hardcore over time.
Thanks!
No such thing.
best there is is the deathlog addon, but there’s definitely problems with it (trolls making fake deaths, and lots of real deaths not being counted)
Based on the name, this would more tell you who USED to be here rather than who is now, right? 
J/k
I don’t have the addon loaded, so have no idea if it tracks anything besides deaths.
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I have not found one, but the consensus is Defias Pillager is highest population on US (it is almost all Alliance). Skullcrusher is the horde realm and still relatively active on both sides. If you are trying to do end game content then Defias Pillager alliance has (by a wide margin) the most level 60s on it currently.
Every time I check, with CensusPlusClassic or ClassicEraCensus, there are about 5-6k on Defias alliance. I assume it’s about the same for Horde.
Really the one difference between the servers is that Defias is physically located in the US-Central Datacenter and the other is in their US-West Data center. Play whichever will give you the lowest latency.
I doubt that addon works since it just looks at player names and if someone dies they make a new character which counts as a new person.
If it’s only saying 5-6k then HC is doing worse than people think. That sounds very low.
This isn’t a one-off that I’m throwing out. It’s been roughly the same amount each time it pops up a result. In previous classic a full server would have roughly 10-15k so having 5-6k PER SIDE sounds about right to me for a high-full server.
You missed the part where new characters are counting as new players when they are the same players who died.
You should re-read that part.
I mean sure, we aren’t looking at 10’s of thousands per faction per server… But 7 to 8k per faction, per server, is still a huge population considering how niche ClassicHC actually is.
I checked /who and Skull Rock seems to have about 1.5 times as much horde as Defias. Defias has the higher overall pop and has much more alliance than Skull Rock.
Brother, the number is misleading. It’s double counting or triple counting.
It’s counting characters, not players. If you die and make a new character you count as a new player.
Do you not understand this?
The number is worthless.
You seemed to have missed where I explained that the results I gave were not a one off.
People dying and rerolling may account for less than 100 out of a sample size of 5,000-6000. Yes, people can die fairly often at low levels but it’s not enough to skew the data in any meaningful way for the 1-2 levels they are counted for.
The issue of which they are speaking is that the addon is not taking toons off it’s count if they die. So, if you have an actual population of 2,000 and each player averages 2 deaths, the addon will report 4,000 instead of the actual population of 2,000.
In reality that’s not going to be what happens. Players don’t die that often and your scan might not even be on their level range when you do scan it to be able to pick up deaths that will actually double count.
The scans aren’t very quick, takes about 45mins, due to /who limits.
My “100 double count” estimation is probably being generous to the case. If nothing else the population number gets inflated by 2%. It really isn’t much.
(BTW, my last scan had Defias-alliance’s population at 5,366. 9/11 @ 11:32pm)
Most census sites automatically purge old data after 30 days.
So if there’s been no response from a character after 30 days then it’s more likely it’ll be purged as it’s a character that’s considered inactive and not contributing to the active population anymore.
With that being said, expecting any real data so soon into HC lifespan is going to give a false sense of population. I shall come back to this topic in January where there will be plenty of time for characters to fall off the active population.
The “data” from the population addons is always garbage.
I’ll take your word for it though I’m only replying about how the add-ons work.
I personally have not used census add-ons since Warcraft Realms was demolished
CensusPlus - if it still exists - could do that for you.
The current version for classic is called “CensusPlusClassic” and hasn’t really been updated in a while, although it works.
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