Is there a single wow dev now that built or played classic wow?

Using occam’s razor the simplest explanation for blizzard failing to give us a true classic experience would be that none of them actually know what that is. The core experience isn’t the game itself, it is the community, the immersion. Everything that people complain about that made the game clunky are the very things that created the community that you pine for. Every steamline and shortcut takes you further away from your fellow players and further away from the true heart of mmorpg’s.

So if this project is being headed by people who never lived those experiences and take things like discord and queues for granted, how can we ever expect them to understand and handle a project that they have no concept of?

I come here every few months to check up but each time I do things look more and more grim. Besides “onioning” only for launch week, I mean only starting zones, I mean only first month, I mean phase one, I mean probably forever, I hear that AV which was my main source of pvp during classic has already been butchered and will just be a copy of the both teams run to enemy boss and zerg that we currently have. If that is the case what is even the point of including it? Why take away something that has been so dearly loved and missed? Was there a single player who claimed to enjoy the soulless version of AV that exists today?

When I return in two months what else will change? Will we get facebook and twitter integration? Can I order a pizza in game? Can I take selfies with ragnaros to put on my wow instagram? What happened to no changes? I haven’t seen that phrase used since I have been back? I remember even the devs used to say it, but all I see is compromise and change. Is there really no chance of ever getting an authentic classic experience again? Is there anyone left that even wants that? Will people just sit in their discords and barrens chat will never be a thing? Can anyone give me some hope that we are in good hands?

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Ion I believe was?

I believe they got nearly all the original devs back for classic.

Also Ion wasn’t a dev back than he was part of elitist jerks guild.

Yes, there are.

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I believe your idea of what vanilla was is flawed.

Please enlighten me then? Which part was I incorrect on? PvP? Wanting to know and connect to your fellow players because you were all on the same server and would have to interact with them in the future? Missing barrens chat?

Basically the part of them not wanting a legitimate vanilla experience.

They have the original dev team back working on it.

You know the last team to make an actual good wow

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The guys doing the Classic development panel at Blizzcon last year worked on Vanilla. That video should be checked out by the OP.

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The Lead Dev worked on Naxxramas onwards, and one of the Senior Devs started in 2002.

Simple answer, yes.

That ‘understanding’ is so far off base, its like you’re taking all the good wins, and intentionally misinterpreting them.

Basically, what you’re saying is:

“I want AV 1.5, waaaaaaaa” and have decided the entire project is broken because of it.

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In a video on youtube 2 devs covers classic wow, one said he has been with them from the start original game.

I think pretty much all of them must have been building and playing Classic wow for a rather long time now.

Or perhaps you meant if any of them were devs in the original vanilla WoW?
I will keep at this every friggin time someone uses Classic and Vanilla terms interchangeably.

Ghostcrawler was a Dev always mentioned in the hay days, but he left and I think a few others went to work on Wildstar

I think the OP was saying that none to just a few of the original devs were working on BfA.

Personally, I think the shark was jumped about the time Metzen left. And it’s possible the stresses of trying to keep the wolves at bay were part of the reason he left how he did.

So boss race AV is the ideal? Could you explain why you think that is the case? When people think of classic AV is that what they picture in their minds? 10 minutes rounds where anyone playing for objectives is yelled at?

The two devs in this presentation are OG. Then there’s Ion.

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You’re missing the point. The game is normalized around the 1.12 patch. Variations from that in terms of systems mechanics are only changed when there’s a glaring need to modify them.

1.12 is a valid AV experience and so they’re using it instead of manually trying to rebuild and rebalance a 1.5-like ‘reimagining’.

Its not about what’s best, its about what’s part of a cohesive whole.

Yeah he definitely played. Ion was leading one of the most influential classic guilds at the time. I’m pretty sure he knows what he’s doing.

Edit: I’m not actually sure at what point Ion was leading Elitist Jerks, but I’m sure he was active in classic even if he wasn’t the guild leader

Yeah this is logical.
But as I view it AV might very well be one of the very few exceptions to this and it could be worth it to make a compromise on it’s case and go with some sort of “reimagining”

Certainly it’s not something they must do but perhaps it is something they should do. Could be worth it.

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So basically it’s about what is easiest to build using the least effort and least amount of resources? Thank you for the clarification, I will endeavor to reset my expectations and follow my group faithfully waving hello as we pass the other zerg mid map. Just don’t forget to cap the back graveyard or we will have to play for another 5 minutes to get our 100 gbp.