Careful. Lots of reporting going around today for saying stuff like this I got reported by some cow I think. . BUT
To your section:
You might have your numbers flipped. You can’t use these forums, Reddit or anything else as a measuring stick. You may not want it. . That is fine. But that does not mean EVERYONE does not want it.
This is simple stuff guys. .
To the OP
A definite lul is in place at the moment. It will pick up the closer we get. Perhaps it’s me, but I wish more of these beta testers that we can see would do. . testing. It’s almost got to the point they are just screwing around and rubbing it in your faces. Personally I am waiting. I do not want to spoil it. But when you get to see these large scale battles and “fun” it feels bad for the rest who want in.
As someone else said, AV in it’s current state isn’t very exciting & streamers are failing to make it interesting, though people like Asmongold are trying hard.
AV launch should have got Classic over 100k viewers on twitch, instead it’s at it’s lowest point, but Blizzard will likely refuse to admit there is a problem & pretend that 1.12 is the real Vanilla WoW.
One of the fun things watching the clips has been how reminiscent it is of the warhammer beta (and probably the original vanilla beta but i wasnt there). People are just mucking about doing things for the fun of it. Watching the asmongold av vid when mcconnell says ‘dude, its called the field of strife!’ all i could think was ‘this wont happen in live’.
And this applies to almost every aspect of this beta test. I remember warhammer beta being one of the most fun times ive had in gaming. The game was being played exactly how you’d want it. The RvR zones were packed, all those world pve events were constantly in use. It was a real community game.
Fast forward to the live game and it fell apart. The reason is really simple: People weren’t just hanging around experimenting or messing around. They were racing to end game. This lead to dead rvr and dead world pve events. If you missed the boat at launch (or just decided to try a new character - as i did), you were stuck hanging around empty zones as the mass of players were off elsewhere.
So though it looks fun, it needs to be tempered with a dose of reality. When things ‘matter’, you’re going to have people suggest you wipe horde at bal, but they’ll be unceremoniously ignored as alliance go straight for the relief hut. World pvp will devolve into ganking, and those 20-50 zones will be relatively empty. Remember that run up and down felwood?
Still, i cant wait until Blackrock spire turns into a warzone. So theres still things to look forward to.
I think hype is definitely dead. However, hype is created when you assume something is going to be amazing compared to whatever you’re experiencing. People are realizing classic won’t be that. However, classic will be a good mmo that is playable and fun. It isn’t going to be the original vanilla experience because of a combination of blizzard decisions as well as community knowledge. Sucks but that’s how it is.
However, I’ll still play classic on and off where as retail I just won’t play period. That’s the difference - even without hype it’s still going to be a good game.
I think people are holding their breath somewhat. I know for me, I’m watching/waiting for the bug fixes to come through. That will give me an idea of how much hype I should devote to this release.
Please enough with the sharding being the same as layering. They’re not. Not even close.
Sharding is not a Blizzard creation, but what it does is take a population from MULTIPLE sources and COMBINE it up equally into a defined number of parts.
Layering, is different. Layering works on demand. While it’s a low enough population, it doesn’t even exist. When it’s a high enough population, it splits it into separate phases, until the need for it doesn’t exist anymore.
TLDR: Layering is literally the EXACT OPPOSITE of sharding. Stop saying they’re the same thing.
I have a small you tube channel and I posted one over the weekend, I have not been seeing as many as I thought, but then again the live game isn’t out yet for most to cover the game, I only use stress test coverage right now.
Plus most streamers don’t make many separate edited actual videos I noticed its segments of the stream.
Stress Test tomorrow, the hype will return.
You can’t expect the hype to remain at 100% for three months before a product launches. That is why they stagger info and marketing opportunities.
What if, as an OG vanilla player, I don’t actually care what version of AV we get?
Can we stop with these grand sweeping “Everyone wants” and “Nobody wants” statements, in a community as large and varied as the classic wow community I doubt you will ever get a statement like correct and all it does is polarize people and invalidate much of your argument. If 1.5 AV is truly superior than just stick to the facts of what makes it better, but don’t go lumping people into one camp of the other.
Plus I think we can agree that there is little chance they will rebuild 1.5 AV since it would take additional time and effort; which we have already seen is not something they want to put into Classic as of yet. Layering, Right-Click Report, Loot Trading are all great examples where they don’t really care about what the community wants but good luck dying on this hill.
Layering and the exploits it brings killed my hype.
Melee leeway from mobs+taurens and the implication that it isn’t a bug based on their so called ‘‘reference client’’ killed my hype.
I don’t trust blizzard, I don’t trust their reference client when in the past they said they didn’t have the data anymore to recreate vanilla. How easy dungeons are just reeks Cata+.
I also don’t trust their paid streamers that are constantly doing damage control which works for a lot for the sheeps who know no better. This is their job so of course they’ll defend ‘‘classic’’ and its layering, they don’t want to lose the hype/views that comes with it aka money.
They are just being narrow minded and pigeonholing you into a category for no other reason than being old. I’m a millennial but I don’t act like it nor do I fall into the characteristics of being a millennial. Just ignore them and and their snarky comments.