Because it’s the same problem under a different name-- the “monster/animal” races stopped getting a focus and the more human/human-adjacent and pretty ones keep getting more and more attention.
And what I wanted for so long, and still, is to put worgen up against some (non-drunken) orcs and some tauren, equally large “bestial” creatures.
Because we all know, as far as story and description goes, tauren tower over most of the Alliance peoples. Your average human foot soldier (or even experienced) doesnt stand a chance against a tauren up close. The totems they swing are larger than them. Orcs are almost equally as scary by sheer muscle mass and strength to most. Even trolls, although more lanky than anything, tower over most races. To eventually see a couple of worgen still hesitant to lunge after a tauren and their literal tree trunk of a weapon, knowing that this thing could throw even them like rag dolls.
Yeah our little Frankenstein back and forth is fun and would have loved to see the arms race between the two ramp up trying to find ways to better position each other against themselves, but all I really wanted to see was a bull gore a cocky wolf. Is that so much to ask?
I mean… she is the leader of the Night Elves. Night Elves deployed anywhere are deployed with Tyrande’s approval.
I don’t think so, yes, she is the leader, but Shandris certainly has a certain autonomy as general of the Sentinels, of course she got the position from Tyrande and with her blessing, so to speak, but I don’t think Tyrande really approves every deployment of troops.
But thats only a technically detail, but in case of zandalar, that makes much more sense, i doubt she was planing and commanding the events on zandalar aswell.
That is not how National militaries work. The deployment of troops always comes with the approval of the Governing body.
In the case of the Night Elves, Tyrande is the sole ruler of the Sisterhood of Elune, which includes the Sentinels. Shadris’s “autonomy” begins and ends with the stated goals Tyrande lays out.
The Wardens are pretty much the only nelf org that i think would ever outright ignore Tyrande if they felt like it, so yeah, at worst, Tyrande wasn’t against the deployment even if she wasn’t directly involved
This was also how the occasional loremaster described Death Knights. I think the generally accepted answer is that all players are so often killing things that it’s not a problem, it’s just that for the DKs it fills a need and Worgen enjoy it a little better than most
Yup. We gotta give people the Birmingham Handshake™ or else we get the bad zoomies.
What followed you quoting me had nothing to do with me or any affect on what I said.
I wondered that as well… and quickly began scrolling down faster as it went on.
places Warlords of Draenor on the table that reflects and nullifies any such assumption
At any rate… I’m left with the conclusion I had many days ago…with regard to this original topic subject. Namely, that there isn’t any good reason for members of any previously horde race that want to claim they have ethics and principles to “not” join with most of the populations that comprise the current version of the Alliance. By all means, there are people that want to roleplay themselves being evil…and to that extent, knock yourself out in your evil empire. But don’t complain when the story treats you as a villain, because that’s what you signed up for.
Meanwhile, since the Alliance contains legitimate natives of this planet and has long since accepted any alien that commits to acting according to ethics and principles into their alliance…then we’re left again with the axiom that everybody should just ally or go be a villain.
You said the Alliance Wars within it’s membership. I responded as to how their conflict is not very substantive. So it did have something to do with what you said.
Gotta work on your reading comprehension, buddy.
The Forsaken are an interesting opponent because the Worgen’s skill at mutilation is not only completely wasted on them, but likely deeply unpleasant. Not only will tearing out a throat with your teeth not result in fatality but now you’ve a gush of alchemical fluid and ichor of undeath in your mouth.
Tauren are a wash. Cool beast battle aesthetic but a Tauren is going to gore a Worgen with relative ease.
The main interesting fight I think is with Orcs. Because it inverts both the physically advantage they have against humans and their wolf loving themes. They’d probably be strong enough to rip a Worgen’s jaw in two but are also vulnerable enough to get disembowled.
The best target is probably Sin’Dorei though. They’re basically just fancy humans and if you want murderous werewolf glee - there you go.
None of what I ever said was “ever” any claim that the feuds and wars were “substantive” … you’re not using reading comprehension.
Go start with Warcraft 1 if you really don’t know the foundation of the Horde…
The foundation of the playable Horde is in Warcraft 3.
I bounced that notion around in my head and it occurs to me that the only Alliance race that exists without Titan interference is… Pandaren?
Thrall is not the foundation for the horde, he was a Napoleanization of previous hordes that were the foundation for his.
Pandaren came into existence tangentially because of the ordering activities of the Titans while they were visiting Azeroth. Same as Trolls and Tauren.
What is the point of bringing up Alliance in-fighting if none of the supposed in-fighting is substantive enough to matter?
He is unless you believe that the playable Horde still wields fel magic en masse and is hell-bent on conquering the planet. The Old Horde died in the Second War’s aftermath for all intents and purposes, there are no vestiges of what it once was remaining.
I’ll extend them some grey area because we’ve got little beyond suppositions like “Wild Gods did it, maybe?” or “maybe they descended from a construct?”
Also even if the original horde was the foundation , trolls, tauren, elves and undead are all natives to azeroth the orcs are the literal only aliens
Excuse me, I’m an alternate universe alien, thank you very much.