Except Thrall’s been struggling with his shamanism since the start of Legion if not before. It’s why he gave up the Doomhammer to the shaman player and went on hiatus to begin with.
The only evidence we’ve seen of him getting it back is the Org horrific vision and there’s not much trust to be put in that.
Sure, as long as he also knocked Saurfang down a peg for planning and orchestrating the entire War of Thorns and for disobeying the Warchief and betraying the Horde. Then knocked Baine down a peg for undermining the war effort, disobeying the Warchief, murdering Forsaken, and getting countless more killed by prolonging the war.
OG Thrall would have made note of these things.
To be fair, I thought that was the point for the longest time. The Orcs are a very warrior-centric race, it makes total sense to me that they’d make rules that favor warriors.
I wholly disagree.
Aren’t you lucky that the current writers are the current writers then. You’ll finally get your World of Anduincraft.
Thrall has “betrayed” the current warchief of the Horde previously. If the Warchief is evil, Thrall holds no compunctions about what must be done. He’s Lawful or Neutral Good, not Lawful Neutral.
Subscription cancel is in the upper right, dude.
Thank you! And Baine said Vulpera in the Horde was a bad idea 
The one and only time he was correct, short of jaina’s brother.
Paladin axiom in dnd: if you’re given a moral choice where you must either be unlawful or immoral, choose the unlawful one every time. You keep your powers after a Chaotic act as long as your alignment isn’t changed, but one Evil act will strip them away.
Well, Thrall’s not the only one who suffered from character assassination this expac. Pre-Cata Saurfang would have challenged Sylvanas to a fight the moment she ordered Teldrassil’s burning, if not sooner. Just like he threatened Garrosh he would do if Garrosh tried taking the Horde down a dark path.
OG Horde would never have done War of Thorns to begin with.
They never should have had a shaman as warchief then.
The better solution would have been to reject Christie Golden’s first draft of The Shattering and made her study up on her lore before trying again.
Blizzard obviously never cared that much about story.
He’s a well respected and powerful character in a melee spec, even without his powers few would care to challenge him, and of those who would, he’d still beat the vast majority. Still made sense to me.
Horde Players: OMG WHY IS THE HORDE ALWAYS BEING VILLAIN-BATTED?!?! BLIZZ PLZ STOP
Blizzard: ok
Horde Players: thnk u
Blizzard: So the Horde is going to start improving their image now by offering to help-
Horde Players: OMMMG WTF WTF NO THE HORDE IS DEAD!! WE DON’T HELP PEOPLE REEEEEEEEEE
He was a gladiator before becoming a shaman. He just wasn’t enough to beat Garrosh in a contest of weapons and punching.
As I said though, no one cares that Thrall “cheated”.
Not all Horde players want the same things.
News at 11.
Yeah dude the edge lord lobby has been directing the game forever now. You going to enlighten us with how Theramore was an inside job and how the goblins are putting chemicals in the water to turn the Murlocs aggro.
This is a lot to unpack but it all smells like BS and ad hominem, but you opened up with mean girls table snark so I am not surprised and continue to be unimpressed. I am starting to think that the boorish aggressive behavior that you are getting is likely because you think that it is socially acceptable to be snide to people and when they treat you in kind you somehow think it is their fault.
You have no argument. You just don’t like what I like and that’s cool. I have no expectation for that. However it is pretty funny that you are trying to claim the moral high ground about people being rude when you were the one who opened up with.
This isn’t your lunch table Karen. Don’t claim moral superiority. What you like is no better than what I like. Your preference in the story doesn’t make you a better person.
Hush now, child, let the grown ups talk.
I’m sorry you must be this tall to contribute to this conversation.
I dunno, judging from the sheer amount of whining in this thread alone, it seems at the very least that they don’t want to be in any way altruistic which… kinda makes it hard to participate in much of the game’s content that involves us going to new lands and just helping out whoever lives there.
Which to me, kind of defeats the purpose of even playing this game since that’s usually over half the content with each new expac.
Most of the complaints come from it being aimed at all life and not specifically the Horde. The Horde is intended to be a family, and they extended their hand to the Forsaken after Sylvanas betrayed them. I would personally appreciate if the opening showed Horde solidarity after years of specifically stating that the Forsaken were using the Horde.