Is the extinction of the Red Dragonflight "common knowledge"?

Hey guys!

This came up in roleplay the other day, and I debated on it myself.

Is the near-extinction of the Red Dragonflight at the hands of the Deathlord of the Ebon Blade common knowledge?

Certainly, the Knights of the Ebon Blade wouldn’t tell any one. Hell, most might knights might not even know, as it could very well be information kept confidential even within their own ranks.

However, the Red Dragonflight knows. It’s been 2-3 years since the event. I can’t really think of a reason why they wouldn’t inform other major organizations, including the factions. “Hey guys, these corpses you let walk around in your cities just nearly wiped us out because we didn’t agree to help them.” And, they’ve even recruited the help of random adventurers to prevent similar things from happening.

What are your thoughts?

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The Ebon Blade’s actions during the Legion war haven’t really been reacted to by the world. They murdered paladins in their own chapel unprovoked and raised red dragons as mounts. As far as I know, only the Death Knight player gets to experience any of this.

Characters can react to this, of course. I’d say it’s a common reaction that the Ebon Blade is not as trustworthy as it once was now that they work with the Lich King again. They didn’t do anything in BFA aside from the player character, so it’s hard to know how the world sees them now.

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It’s very frustrating. I feel like this is true for almost all the order halls.

  • What happened to the Illidari?
  • Why are the priests/druids/paladins/shamans fighting against each other after being so close allies in the last expansion?
  • What does the world think of the Ebon Blade?

But cool! Thanks for your thoughts!

Partly I think it is an ongoing (unfortunate, but understandable) circumstance where Blizzard can only tell so many stories at one time in its main arc.

I absolutely loved the fact that all of the classes had their own stories going on in Legion, but I also understand how continuing those stories in BFA would have been problematic. Either you’d have all the class story lines remain separate, or you would have a lot of confused players - for example, a rogue player would have no clue about what went on in the DK story line and be totally lost.

… but anyway, back to the original post. Do I think it would be common knowledge? No. Not in my personal opinion anyway because there would be no reason for it to be. I wouldn’t imagine that the Red Dragonflight would really want anyone to know that they were that bad off unless it was absolutely necessary. Most would already know the dire situation dragons in general are in - why would the Red Dragonflight want to add salt to their wounds?

From what I understand of the event, when the Deathlord (the DK player) went to the Ruby Sanctum, he did spare those he could. He, by what is suggested in BFA, did not just slaughter absolutely everything. (Whether you as the player did or not while in there is neither here nor there.) The Reds themselves seem to be handling their own affairs as they see fit (again, per BFA) without really involving other factions. Again, leaving me to believe that they would have no reason to just tell anyone and everyone the state of their business.

Ultimately it comes down to Blizzard only being able to tell so many stories at one time - especially in game.

However, if you simply wanted to make an argument for how the Red Dragonflight is reacting (or not reacting) just remember - revenge is a dish best served cold. Besides, despite their situation, dragons are still dragons. They are still much longer lived than humans and likely do not feel a sense of urgency in the same way as humans exacting revenge would behave.

Just my take on it though. :slight_smile:

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I’m pretty sure Blizz said the “death of the rubies” wasn’t actually canon. They removed the achievement that asked you to do it before it went live, wasn’t intended to happen. Lorewise it would follow the quest objective then where we just went in, roughed some of them up and left afterwards. The ruby dragonflight shouldn’t be on the edge of extinction.

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I’m not sure on the canonicity of how many drakes were killed. The Wiki states that the achievement was removed because it was for a one-time quest, and it wasn’t intended to be added to the live game.

 https://wow.gamepedia.com/Life_Preserver

Per this quest, the Ebon Blade are still hunting undead drakes, and the Red’s are recruiting adventurer’s to help them. But, it just says their “sanctum was invaded”. So, you’re probably right in that, canonically, the Deathlord just killed which ones he had to.

Player: “You know me?”
Zallestrasza: “We do, Deathlord. We know it was you who assaulted our sanctum. We know you have corrupted and enslaved Kyranastrasz. Those are offenses against Life that will be answered for, one day.”
Player: “I spared what lives I could.”
<Zallestrasza’s expression eases slightly>
Zallestrasza: “That also did not go unnoticed. My people are few and each life is precious. It does not excuse the offense against my flight, but we acknowledge and appreciate your… restraint.”

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“Thanks for only killing some of us.”

Guy in Dalaran: You ever notice we haven’t seen as many red dragons lately? I mean this is Krasus’ landing after all! What happened!

Myrded slowly steps in front of his undead dragon mount in a vain attempt to hide it.

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