I want to create an alt that can heal, but once i actually prefer the melee playstyle(for questing and all) i’m between Shaman and Pally. But Pally i think is really hard to heal, once i have to stay at melee range.
ALso, is Evoker easy to heal ?
Its not that bad from what i’m seeing. Evoker did steal some of their thunder though (pun intended) as they also provide Bloodlust.
Rsham isn’t melee though, its mid-range if anything as you want to at least be in range of windshear and stand in your healing rain, but you don’t want to be stacked with your group to minimze your movement as you have to hardcast a lot. It can play at long range if necessary as well but you lose some effectiveness.
The other option for a melee healer other than pally is MW Monk.
shamans themselves arent bad its more theres people playing them that arent the best giving them a really bad look. yes they may not be top tier etc but its more the people playing em
That’s valid for like… any classes. Seen some pretty aweful Pallies in my years lol.
If anything extremely popular classes (Pally DK DH Hunter Druid) are the ones that have the higher chances of attracting lower tier players imo.
Retribution Pally in particular is probably one of the most hit and miss spec in the game in terms of player quality as a lot of people see a knight with a big 2hander and big shiny spells doing big damage and ignore the second half of the spec’s toolkit, which is its insane support capabilities.
Either way its a non-issue if you use the game’s systems to pick people of your skill level to play with.
I started wow as a shaman healer. Shaman healers are great in my books. There heals are not that bad. The problem is the player behind the keyboard, as I have been leveling this guy, I have run across players they use the heal queue to get in dungeons. When I ask them to heal, I get told to pound sand.
The community as a whole tends to lean towards the “if you’re not first, you’re last” mindset regarding class/spec balancing.
Resto Shamans are good enough to do anything in PvE and probably PvP. They’re just not as good as Evokers.
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Resto shamans work better with friends on comms. Trying to get PUGs to stack for healing can be frustrating. You might want to look at Mistweaver instead.
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Resto shamans are terrible because nobody stands in earthen wall.
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Go pally or evoker, both are top tier for pve. Shaman isn’t unplayable, but it is at least near the bottom of any reasonable person tier list.
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Even for M+?
I hear a lot of complaints from players with evokers because of their range
Agreed w/ entire post. Wanted to highlight this especially.
When Arcane was “bad” last expansion in Season 1 (i.e. not busted like Fire), many of the random people I played with would yell at me for being Arcane, and many others would simply kick me or leave my group. Nevermind that they didn’t actually pull around their Fire mages.
I made a thread about pugging as Arcane, but basically you just have to learn how to navigate these players socially to bypass that sort of garbage.
My point is this. Good players will make just about anything work. Weaker players will suffer regardless of their pick. Play what you enjoy and are comfortable with, and you will be able to succeed in pretty much any content.
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Why would you want to heal in wow. Healing is for masochists and people with god complex. It’s nothing but stress and frustration. Especially in dragonflight where you can’t even cast without having to move every 0.5s
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Rsham is in a weird spot right now.
It lacks the mobility and throughput other healers have.
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An issue is that the Evoker kind of took the niche of the Rshaman… and does it better.
Resto Shaman aren’t THAT bad though… you should still pick the better player over the class.
Pevoker is one of the strongest m+ healers, the only issue is that resto druids exists.
was reading something on this earlier (reddit), players were chiming in that rsham has a tough time in mythics due to having to hard cast most of their heals (unlike, say, rdruid).
people not staying close enough together for a good utilization of rain and chain also came up
I dunno, I haven’t gotten my evoker to 70 for comparison, so I don’t know if it’s a class issue or if all healers are struggling in the DF dungeons. But my Rsham alt just doesn’t feel as good as it did in BFA or SL. It’s been much harder to keep people alive than i remember for the past four years. And I’m just running M0, not even pushing for higher level mythics.
Or maybe I’m just bad at healing, but if i was doing ok for the past two expacs and only now am I getting wrecked, I think there’s more at play.
I have done all +10’s on a resto druid, now trying to do it as a Shaman.
Shaman heals feel like they hit like a wet noodle tho, and outside if spiritwalkers grace, not friendly when I have to move a lot
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Also it is a cooldown healer where the cooldowns are bad. There is a reason they are literally doubling HTT healing on PTR.
RShaman needs a new mastery as the current one is a balancing nightmare as anytime Shaman is good overall it is usually broken in progression content where you get a like 30% throughput amp.
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As of now yes it is bad. But you never you blizzard could buff it and itll be S tier again.