First time actually PvPing this early in a patch, partner said rdruid mastery was undertuned/not scaling well, etc. That’s fine and all, is it always like this? Still got really solid games in, but every single one of them felt like non stop healing spam with little room to push for stun/clones. At one point around like 40% dampening I went oom trying to spam regrowth, only to look at the overall healing after and realize it did NOTHING for healing.
63k overall regrowth healing and half of it came from 1 swiftmend + sotf regrowth that amounted to 30k before dampening was heavily kicked in, it’s pretty bad. Regrowth average healing was 3k, how? It was more mana efficient to just refresh rejuv even if it was recently applied than to press regrowth. Every trait, essence, and trinket outhealed it by more than 4-5x the amount, some even closer to 10x more.
Any insight? Was this intended?
I haven’t logged mine yet but it’ll be fine, it’ll catch up w gear too
Also sotf was never going to act as lay on hands unless you had full hots
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Ofc, but even prior to the patch and deep into dampening, sotf regrowth actually felt worthwhile, now it’s not worth using at all. If my sotf regrowth at 30% dampening is only healing for 15k, how bad was scaling meant to be? Sotf regrowth is rdruid’s biggest heal, a 30-40k max with tons of them casted is absurdly low considering we have 400k+ HP now.
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Did a few last night and they seemed fine. Not as good as last season but only got 7 games in. Double dps was rough but only lost to a disc/rogue doing some crazy damage where I couldn’t out heal it even with no kicks or cc on me.
I’m sure it will change with gear. Only sitting at 448 ilvl atm
Idk my healing feels fine tbh, and rdruids scale extremely well with gear which is why we got the mastery nerf in the first place. My guess is your guy was under an ms effect and/or getting purged. You def still can get 100-150k regrowths with full hots. Also the regrowth average healing counts the hot effect so it will always read super low. There kind of is more of a time limit on games so far this season, but I think most healers are struggling past 40% dampening
With that being said I probably won’t be healing many melee cleaves this season in 3s, but lock/druid, ww/druid and dh/druid all felt really strong in 2s. And the 11 games of splay I played in 3s also felt fine
Edit; looked at your armory, your mastery is really really low. Try to swap out some Crit/vers for more mastery if you can, you’ll notice a huge difference once you get to like 15%+. Like, if you increased your mastery by 5% you’re getting like 25%~ extra healing on your sotf regrowths, or anything really if you have full hots.
Not atm. Maybe with gear. Only time will tell
Whats your highest xp? U sure ur playing it right?
Sounds like your partner was giving u “lip service” tbh
U dont even have the cloak or enchants so im going out on a limb and saying youre probly low xp and not qualified to judge the state of the spec
(Checked achieves and was right)
Sounds like you forgot to have HoT’s on the target before using regrowth? Perhaps nourish will make a comeback to warrant pressing regrowth if pressing it is really that bad post nerf.
Nourish feels super powerful rn. Although in 2s it can be tough to get them off if you’re playing with a melee
It felt extremely underwhelming for sure. I definitely wasn’t seeing 100k+ regrowths even if I had used an sotf regrowth at the earliest stage of dampening. I’ll shoot for more mastery too, I did trade out rings to play with a vers build since I got vers proc corruption and it has high uptime, but it felt wonky overall. I’ve played with mastery only a bit higher and it didn’t feel much different. My whole point is that I don’t think regrowth’s direct healing + the HoT shouldn’t be outhealed by an essence by as much as it was. Every single druid heal/HoT was in the 400-600k range, including the essences, and Regrowth was 63k. It looks a lot worse on meters, I’d post a screen if links were allowed.
Thanks for the info though, I’ll def swap back to more mastery for sure.
Tbh most of the time I use my sotf on rejuvs just cause having sotf purged feels bad and having to constantly cover every sotf with hots @full health is inefficient. I only really use regrowth as a filler or if I really need to top someone in a overgrowth+swiftmend+regrowth situation, or if it’s late in damp and there’s nothing else to keep your boy up and you just have to spam regrowth and hope for the best (nourish is really good for this, I don’t cast many before high damp, but it’s a lifesaver after like 40% damp). But nourish still kinda feels awkward in 2s for a lot of matchups so I can’t really say to use it all the time.
Heavy vers build might be better with a lock if you’re really really agressive, but idk, it’s still debatable and high mastery just feels so much better and I don’t really want to drop below 15% in any situation
All of the ones I’ve played into (that weren’t back pedaling apes) seemed fine. As you get more gear they will probably be back to their old ways.
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rdruids playing with tanky specs like destro seem to be able to go full idiot, so i think they’ll be fine