Is outlaw viable for PVP?

I prefer it over sub and sin for general playstyle, just curious how it performs in pvp.

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Was reasonably decent last season. Plays about the same so far. You’re probably better off with sin or sub, but it’s looking at least perfectly viable I think.

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Depends. Rated Arena? Probably not in anything outside 1v1 as in a group Rogues fulfill the role of set up and control.

In basically all other content you can make it work. You still have enough control to do your job in BGs

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Me too. When I started my Rogue several X-pacs ago, I chose Combat because the description just sounded the best to me, and when they changed it to Outlaw, well, that just sealed the deal for me! :sweat_smile:

But I haven’t played my Outlaw all last X-pac, and just brought him out last night, so he’s 70, in old 70 PvP gear. I want to try whatever actually has the most utility on a Battleground (my prefered PvP), and the highest ratings. Sub wins every category in the current Season, according to PvPLeaderboard.

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I played quite a bit of Sin wayyy back in Draenor, and Sub in Shadowlands and I’ve honestly never touched any version of Combat over the years or what is now known as Outlaw until prepatch of Dragonflight.

I can honestly say i enjoy it alot more, but understand why others don’t/wouldn’t.

Ran several bg’s/skirmishes last night and it did pretty well in the times i was stealing bases and being annoying (favorite aspect of being a rogue in bgs) as for skirmishes i definitely felt alot more pressure when focused but did manage a few kills with a marksmen hunter i was playing with all night.

It’s still a rogue so it’s got that rogue kit; that will automatically make it alright in some settings.

But you need to be a god tier rogue that has accepted their role as a CC king.

Your average or even above average rogue though? Damage just isn’t there. It’s not that fun and a lot can go wrong

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Only way to pump damage is to use openers and two vanishes for Crackshot opportunities. So if you have a healer baby sitting you then yes you can pump damage.

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It’s extremely hard to beat “cheap shot an entire team” which is what you can do with Sub on command.

Assassin spec puts immense pressure on healers.

Outlaw doesn’t have a thing besides being a Rogue right now.

That’s the issue currently for Outaw.

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I set up kills for others intentionally so works for me heh, i’ve always focused on cc first when i play rogue.

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Doing well so far.

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My favorite aspect as well. I generally Main Paladin, and Rogue were always annoying me in BGs, to the point I finally broke down and made one.

It’s been a couple years since I’ve played my Rogue. I’ve always played Combat / Outlaw, mainly because the RP aspect appealed to me the most when reading the spec descriptors.

I do not care about having the highest damage or most KBs on the leaderboard. I play the Objectives and play for my team, no matter which side I end up on…

A few weeks ago I was looking at the pvp charts, and at that time, the highest ranked Rogues were Sub, then Sin, then Outlaw ranking lowest of the 3.

I know at this point, having not played a few years, I’m gonna have to relearn everything, so I’m trying to think positively about learning a different, better performing, spec…

I wish there was a ready guide that would show how the specs actually stand up to each other with regard to CC/Utility, Defense, ability to escape from ugly situations…

To pump damage as Outlaw in PVP you need to use vanishes aggressively for BTE windows. People are going to CC you when they see you come out of stealth so if you don’t have targets controlled don’t even try to use Kspree or try to do BTE Crackshot burst.

Non Crackshot builds are really just fishing for the right RTB buffs which is easier to coax with Loaded Dice.

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