Hey so with AQ coming up my guild is putting some emphasis on gathering a NR set for princess hughryan. how much will this actually matter in comparison to say, ragnaros tales of the fire resistance entourage farmed for months needed to not die within a second of staring at him.
Will she be swatted as rag was or is this 141g nature resist boe ring better off in my wallet instead of being useless following two resets. (yes theyre selling for that much)
TLDR: how important really is NR for hehughryan bug lady or should i bank over a hundred gold in the AH. Sidenote not going for any us or server firsts just solid progress
What’s your class and spec?
i think is required for all melee specs
you should wait and dont cash on those items…it could be a lot expensive later on if you really need that
I’ve never actually fought Huhuran myself. But my understanding is she deals nature damage periodically to the 15 nearest targets. So that’ll be melee. Tanks can stand slightly further away while still being in melee range so they don’t take the nature damage and thus don’t need nature resist so they can focus more on threat and physical damage mitigation.
So basically, if you’re a DPS warrior or rogue you’ll want nature resist gear. If your raid doesn’t have 15 people who are rogues and warrior DPS then you’ll have to designate others to get NR gear and I guess also stand in melee range.
Pointless to ask since nobody knows if it will be needed or not. Question is, do you want to play it safe or risk being the guy without NR that gets owned?
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How much nature resist you need will depend on what you’re doing. If you’re a ranged DPS or healer, for instance, you can probably get by with your normal gear, with a few pieces switched out to give you 100-120 NR.
this is pretty inaccurate. you either wear enough NR to be one of the 15 soakers (150+ from gear alone) or you wear none at all. if you aren’t one of the 15 closest people to huhuran, wearing NR literally does nothing.
I think horde guilds / pug should be able to just have 8 shamans ( 1 in each party ) if im not mistaken.
for alliance, probably gonna need green potions
Pro tip: the world dragons drop a ton of the most valuable nature resist gear in game, rings that say +25 stamina +25 nature resist, and more, yes its tough to get the loot table to show up for your raid on stuff like Ysondre, but try your best to sneak a dragon at 3 am sometime, make your own group in trade people respond quickly to world dragon.
To answer your question, I honestly think there will be burn strategies, woudnt be surprised if you can just “derp her down” with fully flasked/buffed 20 meele lol.
looking at it from a raid-wide perspective, you will need significantly more NR for viscidus than you will for huhuran. Huhuran does not have much health - if your raid group manages to keep its world buffs to huhuran, there’s a chance you can completely bypass the requirement for any nature resistance. But unless AQ40 is added to the PTR in advance of phase 5 being released, no one will know for sure. Melee should aim for 150 from gear alone, and bring along magic resistance potions, which you should use if you’re soaking and you don’t have a hunter in your group (nature res aura from hunters and magic res potions dont stack - its one or the other).
Viscidus is a bit more confusing. Melee and caster dps don’t really deal any damage on this fight outside of small amounts of frost spell damage, frost weapon damage, and sapper charges on the adds phase. What this means is that melee and caster dps don’t sacrifice any DPS by equipping NR gear (which is what you’d expect when equipping any type of resistance gear, because the item budget includes more defensive stats). There’s no downside here. Viscidus deals nature damage with his poison volley every 10 seconds. It hits everyone in his room, unavoidably; 1500 damage is applied instantly to everyone, followed by 2500 via a 10 second dot. 160k damage to the raid every 10 seconds if no one has NR equipped. There’s a way to cheese this mechanic big time with elixirs of poison resistance. Viscidus volley goes out, you take the initial damage and then get the dot. But the elixir removes the dot, which accounts for 60% of the damage. The elixir has a 3 second cooldown so you can use it for every single volley, granted you have enough of them.
If your raid group has enough elixirs collectively, no one needs to wear any nature resist at all, however like I said before, melee and casters lose nothing and gain survivability by using NR gear on viscidus. Healers are the only ones who shouldn’t wear NR on viscidus - there’s still a minimum amount of healing that needs to be done, and wearing NR gear can severely gimp your healing. If your group is lacking frost weapons and sappers, the fight will drag on, and the elixir strategy probably won’t work because you’d need a huge amount of them (think 500+ across the entire raid group).
Hunters’ Aspect of the Wild does the same thing as NR totem, no?
The values might be different, but they do not stack. Class-based resistance buffs do not stack with each other or with magic resistance potions. Mark of the Wild (resistance portion), hunter aura, shaman NR totem do not stack.
If you have all your melee with nature resist, shes pretty easy. I don’t remember my vanilla guild having any real blocks in AQ40 till we hit twin emps and were trying to find a strat that worked for us.
Nowadays, I suspect that twin emps wont be much more than a road bump either since we’ve had 15 years of refining our strats. Some guilds might stumble a hit, but I dont think anyone will really have “trouble” till they fight c’thun. Even that is just gonna be learning the mechanics, which arent THAT hard.
night elf time?
also mara might have some nature resist in the form of a trinket and some other items.
Depends on how much harder it was on pservers.
Hope for the best but plan for the worst.
I wonder if Visc is worse than Huhu for NR.
I’ve heard Barov trinket counts as viable targets.
Yeah I remember sacrificing hunter pets too.
Iirc pets and other “minions” could soak up Huhuran’s wyvern sting but they weren’t targetable by her 15 player poison volley which happens at 30%/ when she frenzied.