It really seems like it is.
Don’t get me wrong, WW does insane damage, but they also don’t have the insane levels of survivability MW does for clear reasons of one being a literal healer spec.
And Brewmaster is just… bad.
So to me, MW really seems like the best monk spec in terms of both survivability and damage. You have to really be doing something wrong and royally screw up to die as a MW monk (Or if in a group and they royally screw up)
Thoughts?
I’ve only really seen a single MW monk
They did an insane amount of healing and damage
The spec scares me now
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Are you trying to say that mistweaver does more damage than wind walker?
Because that’s not true.
windwalker has some insane survivability: four defensive to cycle through.
Dampen harm
Fort brew
Karma
Diffuse magic
Windwalker is one of the tankiest dps specs in the game
Whats this for? Delves? Im intrigued because i want to love Mink but i went in as WW once, got dumpstered. And never went back. Mind you, i didnt go in with any amount of real effort, but more survivability would help.
Brewmaster needs a niche. And they just wont spend time on it, or they have and they dont have any ideas.
to cycle through.
MW can just exist and heal pretty much all damage while dishing it out. You need to click defensives.
I barely even touch a single direct healing spell and am in massive overheal.
WW may have defensives, but MW has defensives AND massive healing that goes into overheal more often than not.
WW hits harder, but MW will be out there in the thick of it at full health long after WW nearly died 2 or 3 times.
any content really.
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windwalker doesnt have this anymore
If you’re trying to say mistweaver has the most damage contribution of any healer, you would be incorrect and it’s not even close.
The damage contribution of a priest healer that comes from just pressing PI on an enhance shaman every two minutes far outshines any damage contributed by a mistweaver.
(And that’s not even to mention the MC tech in Mists of Tirna Scithe that provides 40% increased dmg taken to enemies and the MC tech on the cleaver in Necrotic Wake)
Is it even possible to do a mists on a 20 or higher with no priest for MC?
if you read the title of the entire thread you’d see why this interp of op is ridiculous.
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The title of the thread reads as follows:
“Is mistweaver the best monk spec for damage and survivability?”
The answer to this is obviously no because windwalkers do much more damage than mistweaver and brewmasters are much tankier.
So, we answered that question straight off the bat.
Then I was explaining that mistweavers do not even have the most damage output of all healers as support that mistweavers don’t do much damage.
No.
I’m saying it’s the best monk spec.
I never said anything about other healer classes or even implied anything about them.
This is comparing MW to WW.
YOU are the one saying all of this other stuff. Not me.
I don’t know what argument you are making, but it ain’t the one I’m making.
I’m talking specifically about MONKS and no other class.
They do a bit more damage my guy, it ain’t leagues or anything.
Are they? Because unless you are a specific niche of people, you’ll find yourself dying 10x more than either of the two other specs. It’s designed horribly and has awful survivability.
No, we didn’t. YOU are inventing brand new arguments without taking into account just how tanky MW is.
Inventing new arguments that have NOTHING to do with this one.
We are talking about MONKS, okay?
OKAY.
Among MONKS, MW has the highest survivability and damage COMBINATION.,
which if you read my title PROPERLY, that is my entire point.
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A healer spec does not do more damage than a dps spec:
Can you point to any raid logs where a mistweaver does more single target damage than a windwalker?
A healer spec does not have better survivability than a tank spec:
Can you point to any raid log where a mistweaver tanks a raid boss?
No.
But it has theh best damage and survival COMBO.
When it comes to BOTH damage AND survivability TOGETHER (to make it simple for you) MW outpowers WW.
“RAid log”
see, THAT there is your issue, looking at “raid logs” and not OBJECTIVE ABILITY USE. And yes, if you put a Brewmaster SOLO against a raid boss and an MW SOLO against a raid boss, the MW is going to be alive longer than the brewmaster, unless you are a special niche of people who have mastered the awful design of brewmaster.
Don’t believe me?
Try it.
Take your brewmaster to a raid, try to solo a boss. Then do the same with MW and see who lasts longer before death. I have a feeling you’ll be QUITE surprised.
But that’s just not true, though.
Mistweavers are a healer spec and they do healer damage (which, as I’ve proved earlier, mistweavers do not even have the highest damage output of healers).
A mistweaver doesn’t have the health pool or armor required to survive one melee attack from a raid or dungeon boss.
Except for the fact that they can still survive and they have enough healing to keep themselves alive even through the damage. You don’t understand how healing works do you? Unless it is a literal insta-kill mechanic, the MW can take the hit.
It is though.
Melee attacks from raid bosses are an Insta-kill for mistweavers and every other healer.
How to tell when someone has NEVER touched a healer.
Ok so what current expansion raid bosses have you solo’d as a mistweaver?
Or are you talking about your feelings or beliefs of what a mistweaver can or cannot survive?
In case you have trouble reading:
I’m not saying they can solo current raid bosses.
I’m saying they can outlast a brewmaster before inevitable death.
That’s not true, though.
Mistweavers get one shot from the very first melee attack from any raid boss.
i mean
you made a factual error in your very first post; inter-class comparisons are kinda irrelevant; there are more forms of content than just raids to assess op’s question. idk bro you can pop off all you like but the point of the thread feels a bit to me like it’s been missed by all these paragraphs of your’n.