Is it time to ditch Heroic difficulty?

[Aewendil-caelestrasz (Aewendil)]

there isn’t any need for lfr or auto que dungeons anymore

Apart from a huge majority of the player base preferring that system?

[Galien-thorium-brotherhood (Galien)]

Then use the group finder and build your group. That’s a good system but an auto que system encourages toxic play because they can just reque and get another group in 5-10mins. You’re playing an mmorpg you should have to interact with other players maybe idk form friendships? You shouldn’t be able to just face roll through and call it playing casually that’s not casual that’s not knowing how to play and demanding content for people who don’t know how to play.

[Aewendil-caelestrasz (Aewendil)]

an auto que system encourages toxic play because they can just reque and get another group in 5-10mins.

And you can’t do that in the group finder?

You’re playing an mmorpg you should have to interact with other players maybe idk form friendships?

There’s no more personal interaction involved in clicking “accept/decline” button in group finder tool than there is in auto queue groups.

You shouldn’t be able to just face roll through and call it playing casually that’s not casual that’s not knowing how to play and demanding content for people who don’t know how to play.

Seems you can’t really decide what it is you don’t like - easy content, or random groups?

[Sifu-bleeding-hollow (Sifu)]

Ditch LFR difficulty and make N the new LFR.

[Galien-thorium-brotherhood (Galien)]

Well considering they go hand in hand there buddy I’m saying
you should have to put some effort into building a group and that the content should be somewhat challenging whether you’re a mythic raider or average Joe causal. Most groups built in the group finder communicate as you kind of have to in order to run mythic plus.

[Eskay-barthilas (Eskay)]

Go play classic then.

[Galien-thorium-brotherhood (Galien)]

So the game shouldn’t continue to be an mmorpg where gear and loot is directly proportional to the amount of work you put into the game it should be handed to you for literally nothing with the chance of it titanforging and if I don’t like it I should go play through old content? Fairly poor argument how about the game rewards you for playing

[Bananastab-firetree]

Mythic+ is currently 24 levels. If one is going to trim, that would seem to be the place to trim.

Yeah it’s not like it’s an infinitely scaling system or anything.

Surely you don’t believe they tune every single level?

It’s not even close to being comparable.

[Maidavale-sargeras]

Leave Irisse be.

She’s the resident troll round these parts.

[Osmeric-azjolnerub (Osmeric)]

That’s fine I suppose. Like the rest of us, Blizzard changed too. But let’s not forget that for years this game was hugely successful and popular despite raiding being something most of its players could not do.

It was sucking in enough new players to cover up design screw ups. Inaccessible raids were one of those screw ups. Now, there is no large population of new players to conceal failures, and existing (and former) players recognize content that’s tuned out of their reach, and will not be fooled by it.

[Funkflex-tichondrius]

after 11 years off. TBC raiding was my last experience,

If it aint broke don’t fix it, youd think right?
nope, well they completely changed the game lol, they decided to remove abilities from tbc and make a bunch of free gear now,
there is no more “step up these ladders to get to raid” you just show up magically in ilvl 400 + gear that you got for free.