Is it really that big of an issue?

:dracthyr_shrug:

moving your eyeballs everywhere to watch everything is a physical mechanic. checkmate nerd. my eyeballs move slowly so i need addons to tell me everything

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Every ele I’ve faced played very suspiciously. I watched supatease’s video and every ele checked all of the boxes

  1. Cringe name
  2. Half honor geared
  3. Perfect damage
  4. Never kicks unless it’s a fear on healer
  5. Hops around non stop
  6. Doesn’t cast hex

Do you code?

Not all ele spec info hex.

That’s not the eyes moving slowly but the brain.

Not enough, but I know some things

Is there a script or something for warriors reflecting mortal coil?

I had a warrior do this twice in one game. And ive had it happen several times over the last few weeks. There is no way they are pre reflecting at the exact interval.

You can storm a casted coil but not reflect it.

Havoc, coming out of cc, warr just pressing it off cd, etc.

You know how often I get accused of being a bot.

Hardly evidence

These forums:
“Yo cheating is super rare, you probably haven’t encountered it, and it definitely didn’t stop you from getting any achievements” Source: trust me bro

Also these forums:
“Yo if they do a banwave like 80% of the ele ladder is gonna be thanos snapped” Also source: trust me bro

Can we at least establish:

  1. It doesn’t really matter how many people have been doing it with however much frequency, cheating is bad.
  2. It is okay to be upset or get the ick when you find out about cheating
  3. You don’t have to have been personally impacted negatively by others cheating to still get the ick.
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:roll_eyes: :roll_eyes: :unamused:
according to these forums and some pvp streamers i follow 2400 and below is free atm for most classes

not mee! i struggled to hit 1800 in 2s this season.

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everything is a bit exaggerated.

like the SS toxicity issue

i did 100 rounds of shuffle on my DH a fewweeks ago and didnt see a single toxic message… idk maybe ppl r keeping the toxic chats in whispers these days?

disabled my chat in shuffle a long time ago and actually dont regret it one bit

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i havent seen a single toxic/rude/mean message at all

not even after a guy dies in 5 seconds without pressing anything

There is clearly a line of what should and shouldn’t be allowed,

I think informational addons/macros are fine. Or macros that offer comfort of gameplay like arena1/2/3 and focus and @cursor macros.

However the computational and conditional macros/addons are over the line that idiot proof gameplay i.e like never missing a kick. I definitely believe that things like weakauras have removed some of the awareness skill part out of wow arena.

However I also believe that blizzard has gotten to complicated with mostly just all the different procs and such in the game, so I understand people feel the need to use them. look at like any 3s game and you’ll easily see 25+ buffs and debuffs on a given target. its like playing where’s waldo in the middle of an arena game when looking for some specific buff/debuff.

Their API access for live arena matches also seems to be MUCH to generous overall.

Its quite insane to me that such a big game/company relies on so many 3rd party addons.

addons that should probably be default at this point are sarena/gladius, some form of nameplate cooldowns, diminish, bigdebuffs, and omni bar/CD, probably something like frame sort/sort group too.

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For the most part, these types of macros don’t exist as scripts in general cannot adjust targeting or cast spells for you. The cleartarget function abuse was an outlier in that regard.

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Even weakauras is pretty out there, to auto detect what spells have been used then play non-gameplay related sounds.

You really dont have to have any awareness whatso ever, just listen for the air horn…

Dont get me wrong its kinda on blizzard to design a game where its practically needed, but one reallly realllly refreshing thing about wrath arenas, is that I can just simply look up at a target, see and understand all their buff/debuffs. Ya dont have 50+ different things lighting up on omni bar either.

There’s a stark difference between a conditional macro that kicks or doesn’t kick depending on if your target is casting, and an addon that improves your awareness of things that are happening. One makes the decision for you, the other provides you with the information needed to make the decision yourself.

Weakauras can scan the combat log for when projectiles like storm bolt death coil are successfully cast on you, so you can react and bladestorm it midair. It isn’t reacting for you, but merely displaying the information already available to you in a easier to notice way. Difference between information and automation.

you have automated the awareness portion yes,

stormbolt AIIIIRRRR HORNNNNNNN

The awareness portion was always there, it just turns the failed perception roll from a 3 to a 20

thanks for making my point