Is it me or the city hubs feels so empty

Even during peak hours too. like whats going on? is it just CRZ?Even i oribos it feels so empty. And Im in a server thats highly populated if not the highest populated server as of currently.

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Everything about the game feels empty.

It seemed easier two years ago to get a levelling BG when you had players split among umpteen different brackets, then it is now with players consolidated into only a handful.

There’s a reason Blizzard will never reveal sub numbers.

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and tbh I can feel the sub loss now too tbh. Before it was easier to recruit people for guilds now if your making a new guild with lets say 10 people and trying to recruit 10 other people or more just give up…

Easy checks buddy, do
/who z-Oribos

z is “zone” so it will only return results for people in that zone

bonus info:
/who c-Warrior
c = class

/who r-Troll
r = race

Always 50 found, no matter what it seems. In retail or classic.
Proof: Blizzard retains at least 50 subs!

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It stops counting after 50 (used to be 49, apparently they changed it :man_shrugging:).

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If you’re suspicious go to a dead realm, I play on 32 servers and those two images were from Area 52, the highest pop Horde PVE server (last I checked). Another server I play on is Earthen Ring because it’s dead and sometimes I like no one being around :slight_smile:

Worse state for Org :rofl:

Nevermind, I was derping, the character I’m on is Alliance and you can’t see opposite faction characters

Oh, I’m sorry if I was unclear.

I know you can find less, but it caps at 50, so finding accurate numbers in current zones are difficult.

EWWW earthen ring looks terrible!

I only ever saw people in major cities…Regardless of popularity. Game don’t really feel alive imo.

Or it could be wonderful :slight_smile: You know how much carry spam you see in trade chat on servers like that? Pretty much zero lol

Sharding makes it worse.
There could be 30 people near you doing the same things you are, but you might only see 4 or 5 of them.

Preach said it’s a great technology, but terrible for an MMO. I kind of agree with that. On the flip side it can be pretty bad to share spawns with large numbers of people too.

It just seems like currently it exacerbates the situation.

Ok thats a good point.

If you’re talking about on ED then sadly the case is RP servers don’t CRZ with non-RP servers. So even if wow had 1 billion players, if they were all on Normal realms then you would never see them in the world.

It’s you, because they aren’t empty by a long shot.

I used to enjoy when at the beginning of an expansion you would see small armies of people swarming across the levelling zones, PvPing, etc. Made the world feel alive. I don’t like this thinking of theirs that the world ought to be populated by you and maybe half a dozen others.

Best to just look at facts.
Perhaps the “feeling” is just that the cities are too big so the players that are there are too dispersed?

On my realm, there is a lot of people in both Org and oribos, but I never interact with them basically ever, so they might as well not be there.
Objectively not empty, but still, might feel that way depending on why you are looking for players.

Sharding makes it all goofy.

I’m on a high pop realm. Oribos always has lots of people in it. But a lot of them aren’t from my realm. But it’s not that the sharding is needed, because other people in my guild are often in a different Oribos shard. So the people from my server are being spread across different shards, and people on other servers brought into our shards.

Which is how it’s supposed to work. The thing is… it’s a dumb system. They should try and keep server pops together.

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I mean WoW is a MMORPG. Their is no massive multiplayers cuz ppl cancel their subs due to no content and don’t have money for 60 days game time.

No roleplay too cuz it’s all about M+ and ret paladins. It’s not even a game and more like work.