Is it me, or have a lot of games become Chore Lists? (Not Just WoW)

It’s not just video games. Ask any Olympic athlete. Every day they do training and they do it for hours. Often it’s the same repetitive task, over and over. If you want to win, you have to train enough to defeat the opposition.

If you don’t, then as Illidan Stormrage might say:

“YOU ARE NOT PREPARED !!!”

You can do that in the game without the game stopping you and saying “Come back next week to continue the quest, we’ll give you more stuff.” No, you just keep playing, beat the game, and then revel in your victory. It doesn’t usually then go “Great job. Now come back every single day and do it again!”

I mean you can if you want to, but then you’re doing it just because it’s fun, not because the game is telling you to do so.

Isn’t that more because we (players in general) don’t want the game to end? If things weren’t daily and I killed the last boss in the raid and got a nice credits screen why would i come back?

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I just enjoy doing things. I like tasking.

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This is what happens when bean counters and marketers are the primary decision makers in game development.

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It is only a chore list if you make it a chore list. Nothing in the game is required unless you want something specific. We no longer need to grind reputation or complete dailies. We can if we want to but we don’t have too. There are multiple avenues to gearing that are all viable that we aren’t even forced into a particular game loop. Our time in the game is spent doing what we want to do and if you dont want to, dont do it.

Doesn’t have to end, there is a lot to do in the game.

Again, I’m not complaining about A LOT of content to do, I’m more just wondering if the game would be better if the content itself was the reason we logged in, not because a quest said to go an do the content.

Maybe I’m not fully explaining it properly

And once you’ve binged out all the content you will do two things:

  1. Unsub until there is new content. This deprives Blizz of the revenue it needs to make new content.
  2. Come here and scream about the long content draught.

In is in all our best interests that Blizz protect us from your behavior.

Key word: “feel”.

Yes, it’s a chore if you view it that way.

I’ve gone weeks without a single vault unlocked for example, or weeklies not finished. Yet I don’t feel behind. That could be because I mainly do m+ and all through a season I see people in low keys to high keys as people start swapping to alts.

Maybe a different experience for raiders and pvp ers. I don’t feel the need to keep my character 100% up to date. I literally only recently finished upgrading my isle ring lol. Still managed to do some 5s last week successfully.

I want less to do each week. You already have my sub Blizzard, why are eight Delves and eight M+ weekly optimizations? Why not four and four? Better yet, why not have them share a vault row?

What about all this free Champion gear you can get from Delves? Four guaranteed a week with scattered key fragments to do even more. Why do you want people gearing so fast?

M+'s random gear drop is about the only constant grind I don’t mind. Mostly because it’s exactly that, random as heck (Along with a moderate challenge). You’re bound to give up eventually but that doesn’t mean you won’t be back the next day.

But now Delves (And the squash) have come along and upheaved the lower M+ tiers. It’s either grind to 630/640 or play a healer/tank. Cool cool. Blizz knew what they were doing.

I regret to inform you that Blizzard does not implement time-gating and weekly task lists in order to protect you.

It protects us in two ways:

  1. It keeps people on the treadmill and therefore subbed. This protects us from price increases
  2. The treadmill means there is always sometime to do so we don’t have to endure all the “content draught” posts that used to completely clog the forums.

I honestly can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not at this point.

Because it is not there to protect us, it is there ot keep us here, because we pay to keep playing (I’m not Anti-Sub, I think it’s better than cash shop only stuff) But we still pay :stuck_out_tongue:

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Yea I really don’t get OPs complaint. In Witcher 3, you had to go through checklist of things to get the Witcher school sets. Or getting Johnny Silverhands gun in Cyberpunk.

Seems like to me a certain portion of people don’t want to engage with the game at all.

i’ve already leveled each class to 80, did that during the trial of crusader tier when the endless grind got too much for me

i’m not a big fan of the “log in, do daily, logout” style, at least wow hides it a little better than most games

there are several reasons pretty much every game is like this now, even singleplayer games mix in this stuff too a bit. Gotta play old games for a break

Where do you drama lama’s get your wild info from?

A lot? How many do you actually know?

None you say, oh well there you have it.

Yeah everyone that decided to go to school to make video games, all graduated with an extreme hatred of their chosen career!

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Well, forum posts are irrelevant so we’ll just brush that one aside. Otherwise, you’ve hit on exactly why they do it, they just don’t really have benevolent intentions behind the action itself.

It would probably be preferable to have non-gated content that’s worth playing in its own right, that would allow people to complete it as they wished and that was worth playing in a continued or repeated fashion even without placing artificial restrictions on player behavior.

Yeah the devs want to make a game people will enjoy, they love games.

Shareholders only want money. The irony… is that a better game would bring more money anyway.

Or making a casino on the phone. A.k.a. Gatcha games. Or just… actual casinos.

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That’s the problem right there.

Games being made for shareholders and not gamers, Bobby K made a lot of people a lot of money, and I’d wager not one of them actually played WoW.

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You are free to login and do whatever you want. The only daily thing I do in wow is profession work orders, and that’s because I want to. Some days I login and do some delves, some days keys, some days I screw around with rep or whatever in Undermine. It doesn’t matter if I don’t do any of those things either.

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