Is it just me or is a heavy chunk of the playerbase Leaving WoW for good?

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This post is not specifically focused on Blizzard Entertainment’s pending lawsuit.

I’m just wondering in general, do you feel that the population of WoW will long term remain somewhat stable or at the very least remain the size it is presently will actually get larger or do you feel that the “playerbase” will not go extinct but will shrink?

It just seems to me that many players right now have issues with the present theme or direction of the main story, have some issues with some lore that has been altered and just feel there is not much to do anymore in general?

To explain this last bit. If both of the major factions in the fictional world are now in somewhat unstable peace why should pvp exist at all anymore?

If pvp doesn’t exist, then why even call this game World of Warcraft anymore, since this iconic name to me was rooted in the mainstream heavy conflict between both major factions within it.

Mythics: I don’t feel it’s fair for players that have the skill to push pass 15 that they should not be rewarded with better gear for their work.

If you can compete at this level, you should get better rewards for completing such task?

Well, Lore and Story: The directions of the story and lore on the face aren’t particularly bad. What I would say is that I see certain themes being pushed in the present story that seem to align with social and other issues from the real world.

The problem I see with this is that Azeroth and the fictional universe it belongs to is it’s own world and has many issues but again those are not necessarily relevant to some present social and real life issues.

Thus, being pushed to the degree I feel I am seeing them now in Azeroth, some of them feel like they are making the foundational lore of this particular fictional piece false?

Lacking a better term to describe this?

Thoughts?

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No they are gone.

it’s the toxic playerbase that chased them off for good, blizzard’s incompetence just gave them no reason to stay.

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I feel that some of the people won’t come back and most left before the lawsuit.

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Like 70% of my bnet has been dark for several months or more could be people just aging out idk. I enjoy raiding with my guild and doing pugs if that stops being fun I guess I will probably follow. I kind of want to try ffxiv but I don’t actually know how to go about finding a static since they don’t really need bench players with an 8 person group.

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The really long not played players I know irl…left waaaaay before this.

One pvp did them in. Season 1’s pve reliance (dude jsut wanted to do pvp). and was in the solo queue movement.

Other was systems. MMO’s have some grind. it is the way. System upon systems has some going this is grind for grinds sake.

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for good

who knows. I left during warlords for awhile because I wasn’t having fun, but eventually came back after 6 months.

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Can you please explain in more detail what you mean by Season 1’s pve reliance?

As for me, the reasons I use to pvp were as follows.

Lore wise I felt both factions were at war. However, after this little peace treaty of sorts I felt like “what is the point anymore?”

Secondly, I guess I did it for the higher honor emblems. For example: I liked how my emblem was changing as I gained higher honor ranks. I’m presently 81 and that took me a long time.

I also did this for rewards every 10 levels or so.

However, as with the lore change that made feel weird to keep pvping at all, at some point I felt like why I am doing this anymore for my character? For just some rewards?

Or perhaps the rewards I was given for getting higher and higher honor levels didn’t seem rewarding enough for this particular game.

Let me give you an example. Instead of a pet, mount (which really a number of them are just the same with slightly different colors) or title etc.

If I was to continue doing pvp, perhaps one of the rewards I should get are for service to my side.

So perhaps I should gain ranks for my class and every 10 or 20 levels actually gain a new ability. That would kind of show respect for my contribution to the ongoing war effort.

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This guy is a worgen and level 17.

I started him from level 1 scratch.

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When rgb get slow…you need pve gear to get better ilevel to work that up. As like pve, pvp has the gear score/ilevel picky folk.

also source and tastes depending…many jewelry is raid boss drop, not pvp vendor.

and legendaries. time swing by the tower. See come classes just needed one vault hit for the quest reward. Hunter gets a nice pvp memory from this. Feign death clean slates all debuffs iirc. You could pvp that vault hit.

Now its tower time to use it. and pve to ofc, buy the lego. Pvp doesn’t pay very well as we all know lol.

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My friends. I’ve been around since the glory days of launch. Back when I was considered young and enjoying this new game they called World of Warcraft. I’ve watched this game grow and develop to what it is today. With every expansion after WOTLK it was “Wait …what did they do?”

The moral of the story and reason behind WoW’s downfall is fixing something that was never broken. I appreciate blizzard adding new features and trying to keep up with other games. They have gone a dark path making it a cluster ******. A veteran like myself confused and overwhelmed. Doesn’t feel like the same game I used to play.

Solution? Start back tracking and bring the old glory days back. Back when we actually had fun and enjoyed real world PVP. Back when interaction with other players was a thing. I feel like everyone is a mindless zombie jumping in and out of dungeons without talking or saying a word.

World of Warcraft has lost it’s identity.

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Massive delays in patches.
Rewarding to those with large wallets.
Woke.
Terrible office behavior.
Same time gates.
Same currency grind.
Boring aoe caps.
Thinly veiled legendary items to boost token sales.
No roll tokens.
Decreased RNG on loot.
Same balancing issues.
No communication.

Sums it up.

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My guild is completely dead now, all of the members are still there, they’ve just slowly stopped logging in to the point that they’ve all been offline for years, people change, they move on and do different things i guess. There’s no doubt that the game’s in a terrible place right now but i wouldn’t 100% blame it all on Blizzard.

I think WoW’s decline was inevitable, if you take a business and keep squeezing it for more and more profits while simultaneously cutting back on the resources/money that ultimately creates the content, of course it’s going to go to crap. If they want to save WoW, they really need to pull their fingers out and start investing in it again.

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At this point, it would be better if they did a different MMO.

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A lot of people I know left 1-3 months into Shadowlands and only play on patch release, clear normals, and then leave for other games. I myself left Shadowlands back in Jan 21, resubbed back in September, and I’ve cancelled my sub and gonno be playing other MMOs until probably 9.2 or mid way into 9.1.5.

Whatever else is happening is just drama to me and isn’t a key part in my decision.

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I’ve unsubbed and uninstalled the game. Trying out the competition.

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Honestly, the core people that are attached to their characters/achievements/collections are the foundation that’s keeping the game alive, take away all of that stuff and i’d be gone in a heartbeat.

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And that is another rub isn’t it.

I mean, I am assuming though as I say this it feels it’s on shaky ground; which is regardless of the money that Activision-Blizzard gained through the sales of Shadowlands and continues to dribble away from some of the present playerbase, in truth.

Activision is a big company (as one of their recent internal company memo’s to their employees seems to state in it I believe).

So let’s just say that WoW really just died. I mean like, that was it. No more servers up. Present playerbase that was either subbed or had present game time were refunded and we all read it in the news that WoW now is officially dead.

I don’t think this will be the reality; (at least at this time) but never say never, since

in the mid 2000’s when I was a younger man there was a great game where you could create basically your own super hero and then super villi an.

Oh wow, I loved it. It was called City of Heroes/Villain’s. They made a number of expansions and I played through most of them.

Then I went on with some real life things and about another year passed or so and I decided to take another look at this great game I loved.

I found I couldn’t log in. I first thought it was just some strange tech issue so I went online to look up for solutions.

Found a recent article (at the time) that the company that has the rights to the game shut it down.

The community I remember was heartbroken, to say the least.

Anyway, going back to WoW now.

So say, WoW actually shut down. Regardless of the present income they might be getting from this game, in truth it is just only one of their main games and games in general?

So it might hurt them financially to a degree but wouldn’t they as a company still being doing alright, since they have so many other titles to stay in business so to speak (even if the end of WoW could mean that many present employees would be let go?)

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True, but the overall sub count just keeps declining.

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I think that’s the risk when people try new things out. They might end up liking it and realize like “hey I’m happier here.”

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Well, even Area 52 is starting to look thin. This isn’t a well received expansion. The office issues are just the dumpster to go along with the fire.

Trying Final Fantasy. So far, it’s not hooked me, but I like the charm. I heard it gets better past the vanilla content.

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