I have played since vanilla off and on, only missing shadowlands really, but im back now and after having spent a good number of hours with the one raid we have available. I just really miss the quantity and quality of the older raids, as it provided so much more to do. I didn’t particularly enjoy the attunement mechanic but at this point in the current expansion it doesn’t seem like it would have been the worst idea.
Perhaps it’s just me but it seems the older content, now having the chance to go back and experience the shadowlands raids, it seems like so much more thought went into making them. The larger area and paths available are much more visually appealing and seemingly interesting.
Looking at how simple and minimal our current raid option is, I just would ask blizzard to really put some time in on the future raids. I mean I definitely don’t want MoP type raids where we just go straight to the boss (although basically that is what the Vault is), they were the absolute worst.
I can’t personally handle playing vanilla at this point (minus the availability of spell levels again and resistances). I just wish maybe we could get 2 whole raids instead of 1. Idk perhaps I’m crazy…I mean if they are going to be basic and simplistic like the VoI it seems 2 might be a very good idea and very doable.
The company would keep people playing more as well. Just recommending a quality raid? or if its simplistic like the Vault -maybe two?
Yah’… somehow I don’t think ‘tank and spank’ counts as ‘more to do’
But I guess if one played something like a paladin and you spent all of your time buffing players as ‘something to do’, I guess that technically speaking counts?
Sorry mate but no, raids have gotten better with time - not worse
NGL, I’m enjoying the simpler but more punishing fights. Not everything needs to be an endless parade of mechanics. But that’s just my personal opinion. I guess I’m mechanic fatigued after SoTFO
I mean raids have been of good quality, since Legion the ones that come to mind are the Nighthold, Antorus, Battle for Dazar’Alor (an amazing raid up their with Ulduar imo), Eternal Palace, Ny’alotha, and Castle Nathria (also an amazing thematic raid probably the best thing in regards to Shadowlands) have been amazing.
With the above mentioned raids I think the quality is on par with older raids of prior expansions.
As for quantity Blizz has gone from 2-3 raids per tier to just having 1 (and maybe a 2 to 3 boss catch up raid mid tier like Trial of Valor and Crucible). Personally I would love to see 2-3 raids with 2-4 bosses each per tier (Like your Grul’s Lair, Onyxia, etc) but the reason I wanted that was because sometimes you would just hit a wall in a raid. More recent raids have changed my opinion a bit where you can, aside from the 1st boss and last 2 bosses, do different wings if you hit a wall. But I still want a change in scenery which 2 raids a tier could scratch but with the same amount of bosses.
Overall though I do think the raids have been good and my only other issue with them is sometimes you just have to much trash.
And only for 2 pieces of loot and tier was only specialized for 1 specific role.
I agree, which is why i mentioned shadowlands seems to have being really well developed. I guess i really enjoyed the way they build the dark temple, (Ulduar i think it was), and im kinda bummed i didnt get to enjoy shadowlands when it was new. I do agree with most replies. Just wish there was more.
I would prefer they scrap the megadungeon in 10.1.5 if that means they could make another smaller raid in its place. Then just open up BFA dungeons into the S3 M+ rotation instead of splitting that megadungeon.
Vanilla and TBC had attunement - nothing else has, meaning that you saying “it doesn’t seem like it would have been the worst idea” means that you can only refer to one of those two
This here is in conflict with your previous statement or a weirdly worded critique of the Shadowlands raids’ design so one kinda just has to assume you are saying you don’t want good modern raid design such as Castle Nathria or Sanctum of Domination (yes, Sanctum was a good raid, Sylvanas was sadly a poorly thought through final boss that took way too long)
This would at least seem to indicate that you are talking about TBC since we kinda have had to disregard modern raids by what you have said so… this post seems to be about praising TBC raid design which … are still tank and spank type raids, just with a whole lot more bells and whistles - yes, some mechanics but nothing that actually makes for that interesting of a gameplay experience now’a’days
Which would indicate that we are just talking about the actual visual design of a raid at which point … modern raids are still better so…
Either you have worded yourself so weirdly that you failed to make a point, or your point is summarised as “I don’t like cave-raids” which Vault of the Incarnates is, but there’s nothing to indicate that this is a systematic thing since the visual design for Shadowlands raids were awesome! Even if the Sepulcher of the First Ones was weird, the visual design of the place was still really good and massively varied
In short, if your point is the visual aspect … raids have gotten better
If your point is that of mechanics … raids have gotten better
And you don’t have any example or real argument or logic as to why it would be a systematic design change going forwards, since SL had issues … the raids certainly weren’t one of 'em
And finally…
This is a gender neutral term
And every other form of ‘mate’ is just simply to refer to someone much the same way you say “Hey you”