Is It Griefing (and ban-able) when

lol. ok. wpvp will continue on the decline then i guess.

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Wpvp was never good, never balanced, never “fair”. Imo it can’t decline, because it was never good.

…because YOU don’t approve of their chosen play-style?

it’ll decline a whole lot faster if people are banned for engaging in a basic aspect of the game. :roll_eyes:

“preventing” sounds like a big word here.

im sure you could find ways to get away. remember there was actual pvp servers without the option to turn off warmode not so long ago :wink:

Probably not, since you still have an escape route (except in Outland) by going to fatigue waters and dying as a ghost in an area that will move your graveyard to a new location.

People swearing at you with level 1 alts is actionable, though. Just report it, ignore them, and don’t respond to it, or GM’s view it as mutual combat and won’t action them for it.

Lol. I find it hilarious you approve of their actions.

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I’m more concerned about how boring life must be for those 40 people if that’s how they spend their leisure time.

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it depends which part of the thread you’re concerned about.

…but the necro-lord claiming that:

…is just wrong.

there is no xp loss.

wm is an xp GAIN.

a gain which exists, because you’re going to be spending time getting camped.

if you want the reward, you have to deal with the risks.

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Are they still there one year later?

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Nobully, that isn’t wrong, that’s a strawman argument you’re using.

here is the thing, if you take the risk in pvp, sure. If the risk is being camped by 120’s and you’re only trying to level and maybe do pvp with people around your lvl, that’s a lot different.

So forcing people to not do World PvP because you have toxic 120’s camping you, yeah that’s a loss in xp and time over all. Because if you’re not gaining the extra 30%, you’ve lost the opportunity to benefit from it.

So rather than rephrasing what i’ve said to suit your argument and make it an easier “refute”, try understanding what was said.

i understand what was said.

that is exactly what the risk is.

it’s how warmode works.
it’s how pvp realms worked.

you don’t get to choose the terms beyond that.
if you only want to pvp with people around your level, try bgs instead.

calling people “toxic” just because they’re doing something you don’t feel they should be doing, is silly.

they’re simply engaging in part of the game, which you’ve consented to.

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If you are getting camped for 2 hours, then you suck. Quit feeding the jerks like a moron, rezz away from your corpse until they dont see you and make a move to somewhere else.

Warmode is risky and that’s what you sign up for. I’m 9/10 outgeared and flagged for war. Not going to whine when a hunter pops me off.

I thought you could revive at any spirit healer these days. Shouldn’t it be possible to run to a different graveyard whilst a ghost to res?

Just because that is how it works, does not mean it works ‘well’. Again, you’re arguing a moot point that is ineffective. So thank you for establishing that is how it works, but that is what is already being disputed, because it doesn’t work well, and it’s forcing people to go into WPvP to be camped by the same people who already cause people to not want to pvp. So, yeah this “incentive” doesn’t help either community in the long run.

So others have to change their entire point in going into WPvP, being the XP to get away from people who can fly, and travel, and even use addon’s to find you, and you think rezzing in another zone is the solution, rather than the abusive behavior of those who are higher level?

You can, but does that really resolve the issue of having to change zones just to level? What the incentive of doing PvP, the XP bonus, what the point in that if it takes you twice as long? What’s the point of having PvP if it’s mostly just toxic players camping lowbies?

There is none, there is no reward, the only reward is their grief.

its world pvp by all standards not ban-able because your upset .

this “incentive” is the reward for the risk.

there’s nothing abusive about it.
it’s exactly how pvp realms worked, only now you get a fat little leveling bonus to go with it.

Yeah that’s like me abusing a glitch and justifying it because they’re doing something apart of the game, you’re silly.

And yeah, if you are griefing people and going against Terms of Service, then yeah your argument falls apart quite easily, and has in many other instances.