Just wondering if I should help with turtles.
I can imagine a fast loss and 30 min in a queue isn’t so great for honor, but a slow win could be worse?
If horde stopped turtling and had 10min games, you queues would drop 20 minutes on average
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How long does it take you to kill LT’s and commanders? Those are literally the fastest honor. Turtles are severely reducing the HPH because you run out of significant bonus honor quick leaving you with HK’s that amount to 10-20 per. Alliance can take out all their LT’s and Commanders in under 8 minutes. So in a Turtle that’s over 45 minutes you now lost significant HPH by forcing a Turtle.
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4k honor in a 7 minute game (37 minutes total) is 100honor per minute
To get 100honor per minute in a 30 minute game (60 minutes total) you’d need to get 2,000 honor, or 10 (solo) kills on players
To get 100 honor per minute in a 90 minute game (120 minutes total) you’d need to get 8,000 honor, or 40 (solo) kills on players
If you sit in a 25 min queue for a 7 min loss, you are rewarded 2k honor for the match assuming you get the standard LT/COMM + Balinda.
4k honor per hour is absolute garbage. A single 35 min turtle will get you between 6000-10000 honor.
A long queue affects all Horde and thus does not hurt your ranking process. It gives you time during the queue to farm gold or squeeze in extra open world pvp to climb the ladder. It also puts more weight on your own performance within each AV game so get those kills!
Don’t believe any cowardly lies telling you otherwise. The math is simple. Ally want the path of least resistance to their purple items and will promise anything for it.
Ask yourself, “is 4000 honor per hour competitive?” The answer is obvious.
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This is actually so far wrong it hurts my brain.
With diminishing returns and raid turtle pvp you get garbage honor per HK.
The only people getting somewhat ok honor are the ones exploiting all of turtling idiots by roaming in groups of 1-2 and picking off alliance stragglers before HK Dr kicks in. The rest of you 30+manning in RH are getting almost nothing.
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Ok so if this is true (I’m alliance lol) you only need 5 solo player kills in a 30 minute match and 20 solo player kills in a 90 minute match
I just divided the math in my above post by 2, is that right?
Just look at all you people wanting to maximize honor per hour instead of playing the game like it was meant to be played. Sucking all the fun out of a tactical map with your neckbeardy min max. Gross, some of your sweat dripped on me.
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Even with DR, 4 kills on a player will net you 75 total honor. 75*40 = 3000 honor from hk in addition to the 5k bonus honor for winning. That’s 8000 honor for a 35 min win + 25 min queue. 8000 honor > 4000 honor.
In reality many Allies will leave this game and be replaced with more HK’s without DR.
Keep trying, you will have to PvP for your purple items, coward.
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I premade. I’m at 100% win rate for the day.
I’m just trying to explain to you that you’re wrong and delaying the game is much worse honor. It also makes more pug alliance quit and increases your queue times.
If your end game goal is to get rolled by only premades and wait 2 hours for it then by all means continue down the self destructive path.
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What were you doing down there?
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Admiring my glorious neckbeard most likely
For every Premade you create a 15v40 PUG stomp. It balances out for Horde. We get a lot more honor stomping your PUGs (10k) than we do losing in 7 mins to a premade zerg (2k).
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You still don’t seem to understand. The more you scorch earth the worse your queues get. You’re only going to be facing premades in a few more weeks and your honor per hour will plumet. You think 30 minute queues are bad? Wait until the bottom pug alliance drop out.
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Longer queues mean Horde need to maximize each battleground by turtling.
Your cowardly threats that you will stop participating if we don’t give you free wins have no weight compared to simple math. We get 4000 honor/hour losing in 7 minutes which is absolute garbage.
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I think you’re being threatened by the wrath of a premade lol
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Not asking for free wins. You still don’t understand.
The wrath of a 7 minute loss is something Hordes should avoid. It’s bad honor.
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no they wouldn’t…if turtles were the cause of the long queue they would be 40 min seeing as a turtle last roughly 40 min give or take…going for a 7 min lost rather then a 40 min win wouldn’t drop my queue from 25 min to 5 min…that is just alliance propaganda.
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Correct. Allies want the path of least resistance (PvP items without any PvP) and have no issues lying and throwing their own faction under the bus (15v40) to ensure it.
Most have the dignity to do it in silence and forget about it. The ones who vocally defend it on the forums are something special.
“I premade all day and as a result create lopsided 15v40 for my own faction. If you guys don’t let us win for free those 15 people won’t queue up as often!!”
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